Florida Colleges

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The only zealot is the one that twisted the comment that there are other very good colleges in Florida...don’t see how that is saying they are the same. And if someone chooses one of the other colleges over the “big name schools” for that person it is actually better. It is the elitist zealot that feels the need to pound on someone who chooses a Florida Southern, University of Tampa, etc just to validate that they are at the best college and you are not.

Actually there are a number folks commenting that some schools are better than others. Florida universities vary greatly as do the specific colleges within each school Someone mentioned Embry Riddle is a nationally ranked Aerospace program which is true but some kids go there for their BBA which is not ranked on any level.

In the end every person gets out what they put into there academic career but that should never be confused with one program being as good as another when they are not. I went to Rice and no way I would be accepted now but if my kid gets into Rice or GT, UF/UCF won't even be in the discussion come April 1st.

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Not if the family can afford it. That greatly changes decision making

Many of these private colleges offer nice academic awards and combined with soccer can make the out of pocket equivalent to the cost of a state university. If you are consider a very good player for the program it can even be less than a public college.

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Many of these private colleges offer nice academic awards and combined with soccer can make the out of pocket equivalent to the cost of a state university. If you are consider a very good player for the program it can even be less than a public college.

Exactly the scenario my daughter is dealing with. I am amazed at the amount of merit money offered by the private schools. Add the Bright Futures grant to it and we are right at the same cost as a state university. Soccer money will lower it below that and she doesn't need much to hit that mark. We had written off this option, but it is starting to look better than anything offered by the big D1 programs.

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UCF, UNF and FAU have no dorming requirement, but maybe years ago they did. They are big commuter schools as well as having the campus life. We have friends whose kids got into UF and FSU but they choose to attend the local university and live at home. Some schools like MIT are in another ball park.

Depending on your plan after undergrad, smart kids take the best merit offer.

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There was no saying there is a conspiracy or that any kid that can be admitted no matter how or when is a problem. Remember the poster and his or her response to other good colleges was the one pointed out as the enlist and that students with 1150’s can’t be admitted to these colleges. The responded was merely pointing out that yes, many, many students under the “1340 and 4.7 gpa are admitted to these colleges. Pointing out that UF, FSU, UCF, USF...admit freshman to the January class to better position themselves in the rankings is completely fine...they all do it. The point that I believe the original poster that said Florida has very good colleges was not wrong either. It just some (or at least the poster who blasted these other college Students) feel if you can’t get in or chose to go to a Florida Southern than you are less then which is an ignorant statement. Out.

Parents want to say their kid is elite, not understanding how those scores drop after the fall freshman class. Yes your honor student is mingling with the common folk. After all, you are in Gainsville FL

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Depending on your plan after undergrad, smart kids take the best merit offer.

Yes if grad school is in the cards then getting your undergraduate degree with little or no debt is a huge plus. For many careers a graduate degree is a must.

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Parents want to say their kid is elite, not understanding how those scores drop after the fall freshman class. Yes your honor student is mingling with the common folk. After all, you are in Gainsville FL

Orrrrrr...Parents want to say their kids are just as bright and just as deserving even though their kid did not put in the time and effort to get the grades/scores the others did. They then try to minimalism the accomplishments of others by downgrading the accomplishment or say what their kids are doing is just a good.

Same agreement, different subject you read every day on TS. FYSA is just as good as NPL or NPL is just as good as ECNL or ECNL is just as good as DA.

People understand pretty well that scores drop after the freshman year for multiple of reasons. Kids transferring in deserve all the respect in the world for the clearing all the hurdles against them. No one is calling them common; the numbers actually say otherwise.

Frankly, those students have more drive and gumption than most and I would rather my kids associate with a hard working go getters than a slacker who partied in HS, slid into a crappy (I meant very good) local school and partied on with their frats while earning their generic degree.

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Florida Southern has an excellent nursing school but private schools are expensive and the player would need an excellent soccer scholarship package offered.

A soccer player with a 3.75/29/1250 gets a some money from the school, Bright Futures and some athletic money that in total, covers most if not all of their needs. We had girls from our team playing their so I know this for a fact. As you can see, the 75th percentile is not difficult to achieve and affords a great opportunity for good athletes and above average students.

From The School

Florida Southern currently has a traditional undergraduate class of about 2,498 students from nearly all states and 47 countries around the world. The average GPA is 3.76 and the average SAT/ACT is 1212/26. For more application information, please visit www.flsouthern.edu.

57% Over 3.75
19% 3.50 - 3.74
12% 3.25 - 3.49
7% 3.00 - 3.24
5% 2.50 - 2.99

SAT Evidence-Based Reading and Writing
25th-75th percentile
(enrolled students)
580 - 660

SAT Math
25th-75th percentile
(enrolled students)
550 - 640

ACT Composite
25th-75th percentile (enrolled students)
23 - 29

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A soccer player with a 3.75/29/1250 gets a some money from the school, Bright Futures and some athletic money that in total, covers most if not all of their needs. We had girls from our team playing their so I know this for a fact. As you can see, the 75th percentile is not difficult to achieve and affords a great opportunity for good athletes and above average students.

From The School

Florida Southern currently has a traditional undergraduate class of about 2,498 students from nearly all states and 47 countries around the world. The average GPA is 3.76 and the average SAT/ACT is 1212/26. For more application information, please visit www.flsouthern.edu.

57% Over 3.75
19% 3.50 - 3.74
12% 3.25 - 3.49
7% 3.00 - 3.24
5% 2.50 - 2.99

SAT Evidence-Based Reading and Writing
25th-75th percentile
(enrolled students)
580 - 660

SAT Math
25th-75th percentile
(enrolled students)
550 - 640

ACT Composite
25th-75th percentile (enrolled students)
23 - 29

The perfect small college for some soccer types of players and students. It is nestled in Lakeland, FL where there can’t be much distractions from studying.

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Orrrrrr...Parents want to say their kids are just as bright and just as deserving even though their kid did not put in the time and effort to get the grades/scores the others did. They then try to minimalism the accomplishments of others by downgrading the accomplishment or say what their kids are doing is just a good.

Same agreement, different subject you read every day on TS. FYSA is just as good as NPL or NPL is just as good as ECNL or ECNL is just as good as DA.

People understand pretty well that scores drop after the freshman year for multiple of reasons. Kids transferring in deserve all the respect in the world for the clearing all the hurdles against them. No one is calling them common; the numbers actually say otherwise.

Frankly, those students have more drive and gumption than most and I would rather my kids associate with a hard working go getters than a slacker who partied in HS, slid into a crappy (I meant very good) local school and partied on with their frats while earning their generic degree.

??The numbers posted further back about 33% of CC students after 2 going on to a 4 year university?? Many are transfering into FGCU and FAU and that is perfectly fine. You can't really talk about leagues like colleges because it is the individual that has to prove himself or herself in the major within the college and then in the workforce. Only about 2% of soccer players will go on to play in college but many more students have opportunities to rise up with education.

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Parents want to say their kid is elite, not understanding how those scores drop after the fall freshman class. Yes your honor student is mingling with the common folk. After all, you are in Gainsville FL

They should be applauded just pointing out that UF and FSU try to be elitist schools and get higher rankings from U.S.News and World Report by inflating the freshman class. The February 2019 statistics are not out and UF hasn't disclosed how many out-of-state applications it received and how many it admitted. This site shows past data.
https://ir.aa.ufl.edu/uffacts/enrollment-1/
Click the year 2017 and then click on the freshman pie to see the fall 2017 headcount was 2,954. Then click on the sophomore pie to see it was 6,987 students. The jump occured for juniors at 11,174 students and seniors 15,316. UF also has a large graduate headcount at 4,476 and doctorate headcount of 7 ,684. The freshman and sophomore count is minimal compared to those students getting admitted as juniors or later. Another poster showed how UCF and USF are admitting many more freshman (each college almost three times as many freshman and maintaining a high incoming freshman average of 4.1/1250). UF and FSU simply say they get lots of qualified freshman applicants but don't have room. UF and FSU choose not to expand their freshman enrollment over the years, while UCF and USF are meeting the demands of Florida's students. 52,000 Bright Futures top academic scholars awards (students get 100% of their tuition and $300 books paid for) are expected for this year's senior graduating class. About 10,000 of them may end up at UF and FSU combined, while up to 30,000 of them may end up at UCF and USF combined simply because UCF and USF make more room for them. About 10,000 will go out-of-state or to other colleges.

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https://www.alligator.org/news/uf-re...504f929f0.html Sept 2018
Quite a few of Florida's universities received a F for race equity. They each are vying for the top 'black' students. The recruiters go to high school campuses looking for them. The Coalition essays prompt the applicants to discuss how culture or family heritage has influenced who you are.

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??The numbers posted further back about 33% of CC students after 2 going on to a 4 year university?? Many are transfering into FGCU and FAU and that is perfectly fine. You can't really talk about leagues like colleges because it is the individual that has to prove himself or herself in the major within the college and then in the workforce. Only about 2% of soccer players will go on to play in college but many more students have opportunities to rise up with education.

Not comparing leagues and colleges, comparing the logic that is being applied to both discussions/debates/arguments.

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Orrrrrr...Parents want to say their kids are just as bright and just as deserving even though their kid did not put in the time and effort to get the grades/scores the others did. They then try to minimalism the accomplishments of others by downgrading the accomplishment or say what their kids are doing is just a good.

Same agreement, different subject you read every day on TS. FYSA is just as good as NPL or NPL is just as good as ECNL or ECNL is just as good as DA.

People understand pretty well that scores drop after the freshman year for multiple of reasons. Kids transferring in deserve all the respect in the world for the clearing all the hurdles against them. No one is calling them common; the numbers actually say otherwise.

Frankly, those students have more drive and gumption than most and I would rather my kids associate with a hard working go getters than a slacker who partied in HS, slid into a crappy (I meant very good) local school and partied on with their frats while earning their generic degree.

Silly you, holistic college admissions processes can't determine who puts in more time and effort to get the grades/scores. What's up with UF and FSU using the coalition application to recruit in the nation and to increase economic and racial diversity? USF and UCF just take the applications that come to them and maintain higher economic and racial diversity along with the high GPA and test scores.

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Silly you, holistic college admissions processes can't determine who puts in more time and effort to get the grades/scores. What's up with UF and FSU using the coalition application to recruit in the nation and to increase economic and racial diversity? USF and UCF just take the applications that come to them and maintain higher economic and racial diversity along with the high GPA and test scores.

Your post has absolutely nothing to do with the previous lines of comments. Colleges do not use the same holistic rigor around community college/juco transfers that they do for freshman admissions. Recommend you read the string before you comment since it only makes you look silly but I'm guessing you're used to that.