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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Pretty sure it was 4th place in OYSA. I’ll go try to look it up now. Hold on and wait here.
    Records that many years back are hard to find. I do remember FCP got 2nd place in State Cup to Salem that year. Both were good teams since it was before ecnl and before academy. Wasn’t it OPL way back then?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      FC Portland ECNL 2001 finished in THIRD place in OYSA Premier.



      That’s really good but I’m pretty sure it was 4th place. A little awkward. But hey, fourth place is something. It’s better than 5th place for sure.
      The important thing is not wins or losses, but did the kids have fun? Make new friends? Get a little exercise?

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Upon closer inspection of this subjective opinion posted (internet blog poll), the opinion presented lists 10 club/da teams at the u18 age group?.

        US Soccer DA puts the best most elite players from two birth years together to form one team. Succinctly, the DA has no u18 only teams.

        Even with that reality, (fact) their younger aged mixed teams occupy nearly half of the u18 opinion piece.

        You need to look up the word fact(s), deal.
        ECNL breaks teams up using the same age strategy and simply refer to them in their historically corrected U18, U17 ect age brackets. Simply a difference in semantics. My point is/was, that the ECNL teams occupy the MAJORITY of the Top 10 team rankings for the 16s, 17s and 18s. These "facts" were used to argue the ongoing narrative that the DA is somehow the superior home of talent. This is simply not true. Thanks for playing.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          ECNL breaks teams up using the same age strategy and simply refer to them in their historically corrected U18, U17 ect age brackets. Simply a difference in semantics. My point is/was, that the ECNL teams occupy the MAJORITY of the Top 10 team rankings for the 16s, 17s and 18s. These "facts" were used to argue the ongoing narrative that the DA is somehow the superior home of talent. This is simply not true. Thanks for playing.
          Your subjective source is called an opinion.

          Even if they list factual clubs or DA programs.

          You are playing with yourself, again...stop it.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Your subjective source is called an opinion.

            Even if they list factual clubs or DA programs.

            You are playing with yourself, again...stop it.
            Listen boner. All rankings are subjective by nature, however, we deal with them as reality if the source is credible in most circumstances. Rankings in collegiate football, professional golf, boxing and nearly all other organized sports entail some form of rankings in one form or another. You are not reinventing the wheel in attempting to argue their validity - you're just plain wrong. Top Drawer Soccer has been in the business of ranking soccer for a long time. The enlist many of the top soccer eyes from around the country to help the in this process. It is by no means a fail safe process but it is far more certain than the conjecture you would like us to believe it is. I think I am playing with you rather than myself . . . and winning.

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              Look if you two dudes want to play with each other, please do us all a favor and get a room.

              All love is equal love.

              That doesn’t mean we want to see it.

              The Peek-a-Boo Inn on way east Foster has great daily rates. It’s not clean or safe but it is cheap. Cash only. Tis the time of year to make holiday memories.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Listen boner. All rankings are subjective by nature, however, we deal with them as reality if the source is credible in most circumstances. Rankings in collegiate football, professional golf, boxing and nearly all other organized sports entail some form of rankings in one form or another. You are not reinventing the wheel in attempting to argue their validity - you're just plain wrong. Top Drawer Soccer has been in the business of ranking soccer for a long time. The enlist many of the top soccer eyes from around the country to help the in this process. It is by no means a fail safe process but it is far more certain than the conjecture you would like us to believe it is. I think I am playing with you rather than myself . . . and winning.
                Well, as expected and reflected in your posts you have an active imagination.

                Good Luck with that little 'woodie'...

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                  '01 Girls

                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  It would be interesting to hear how many girls from that 01 team will be going D1 this next year; How many kids from that 4th place FC ECNL team will be going onto the next level to play soccer?
                  Almost all of them have signed with D-1 schools.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    FC Portland ECNL 2001 finished in THIRD place in OYSA Premier.
                    pretty sure it was 4th place, but whatever. the point is not to win leagues, state cups or even tournaments. In the long run the goal is to have fun and make friends.

                    Learning to lose is a valuable life skill.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Almost all of them have signed with D-1 schools.
                      Ahhahahahahhahahshsha

                      Hahahaha hahahahahahah


                      Love fc Portland and their desperate lies.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        pretty sure it was 4th place, but whatever. the point is not to win leagues, state cups or even tournaments. In the long run the goal is to have fun and make friends.

                        Learning to lose is a valuable life skill.
                        FC Portland ECNL 2001 finished in THIRD place in OYSA premier. This 4th place business is hogwash.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          FC Portland ECNL 2001 finished in THIRD place in OYSA premier. This 4th place business is hogwash.
                          So did they tie for 3rd or 4th because there are 4 teams?

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            pretty sure it was 4th place, but whatever. the point is not to win leagues, state cups or even tournaments. In the long run the goal is to have fun and make friends.

                            Learning to lose is a valuable life skill.
                            Well said Eastside dad.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Well said Eastside dad.
                              Is Eastside caveman dad still driving the General Lee to games? And does it still have 4 flat tires just like the Eastside G01 team?

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                My best guess:
                                Vancouver 02s - will play up in league (either 01 or 02, whichever is stronger) but play on age 02 outside of league. They have managed this team the best and it is arguably the most successful girls team playing in OYSA. ***c 01s & 00s will maintain separate teams if they have the numbers to do so. No way Vancouver doesn’t take state again so hand the 02 trophy over now.

                                Pacific 01 - will likely join with 00s

                                Westside - will make strong 02 and 00 teams. The Eugene odp defender would be a good strength bump and the slow Eugene one could be a carpool partner.

                                Eastside - will hang on to field some level of 01 and 00 teams and a strong 02 team. New fields and Thorns association will help more at the younger ages but doesn’t hurt.

                                FCP & CU - will continue to field decent teams in premier OYSA using their non-ecnl players, with the strength edge going to CU.

                                Salem - like Vancouver, Salem 01 will play in 01 or 00 league, whichever looks stronger but play 01 outside league and in State Cup. The only way Salem doesn’t win 01 State Cup again is if Vancouver adds at least one top 01 player and plays 01 in State Cup. In other words, give Salem the trophy now.

                                Bend and Medford - will field 00 and 02 teams but the best 02s will play up on the 00 teams. Birth year messed them up big time.

                                Eugene - like Westside, will field another strong 02 team and a good 00 team. Even if losing a top defender (alleged) to Westside would be more than made up for with 00s from last year’s Eugene 99. Eugene 00 team will fight Westside for second place to clear front runner FCSC 00.

                                All the above out the window if key high school injuries or drop outs from soccer. Tis the age where girls get injured and drop out in droves.
                                Good predictions above except #1. The 01 thread is now the 01/02 thread with a combined u18 bracket.
                                1) Last year all the better 01 teams played u19 and u18 was a 3rd division kind of conference. This year the reverse is true. U18 is the place to be with all the top 01 and 02 teams. U19 is left with only Copa and Medford to mop up the dregs. Underdog Medford has the motivation edge but Copa has the new player edge.

                                2) Vancouver02 will have more competition this year in league but this will only make them stronger. Salem01 leads the strong pack in u18 and will beat Vancouver02 and gps03s in league. No matter, Salem01, Vancouver02 and gps03 each will play in their own age group come cup time. Hand each one the state trophy now.

                                3)Pacific01 stayed 01 and will play in u18 div1

                                4)Westside02 will have a challenge in u18 but will be better for it. Beat Vancouver02s in league last year so don’t count them out. Westside00 is the favorite in weak u19 especially if picked up Eugene players from broken up eugene01 team. Westside manages to also have a Westside01 team playing div1. Must be doing something right to maintain so many older players.

                                5) Eastside’s 01 & 02 will each have a team in the tough u18Premie and no team in u19. Eastside02 Thorns is making a comeback of sorts and will benefit from the challenges of this year’s u19Premier. Predict at least one upset from eastside02. All teams thank Eastside for upgraded facilities.

                                6)Fcp & crossfire quietly go about their business. Fcp02 will be lower mid pack in tough u18 and fc00 will be mid pack or higher in u19.
                                Crossfire01 have teams in u18premier and u18div1. No crossfire team in u19. The 01blue team will have losses but will be competitive in u18premier fired up after a tie v #1 Salem01 a week ago.
                                Thusc00 will play in the small u19 bracket this year after doing well in the small u18 bracket last year. Will they be able to compete with the likes of Copa and Medford?

                                7)Salem01 will play in the tougher u18 bracket this year and may have a few more stumbles like the recent tie with Crossfire. Is there trouble brewing in the MWV? Salem will prevail if they don’t implode like the Eugene01 team. Vancouver02 looks to overthrow Salem01 again in league.

                                8)Bend fields a combined 01 team. Several older standouts have graduated and Bend will struggle if they play u18premier. Bend01 would do best in much weaker u19premier bracket.
                                Medford will play u19 but hard for outlying clubs to do well at older ages with graduation taking a bigger toll on such small pools. Can Medford do as well as last year in u19?

                                9)Eugene01 what happened? Did the top defender defect to Westside? Eugene01 disappearing leaves Salem all alone in the 01 age group. It’s getting lonely at the top. The Eugene00 team is yet to be seen but the Eugene99 team was top shelf. Will Eugene00 be a sleeper pick now that they no longer have to be under Salem01s dominating foot? Westside00 beat Eugene99 for state champs last year. With no Salmon Creek00 team in u19, will Eugene00 be able to get pay back and book their trip to Boise or will Medford surprise and take the cup? Westside00 is still the favorite and could be bettered with Eugene players.

                                Welcome 02s back to the 01 madness. Back to before the birth year switch. Good to mix it up. Can’t wait for matches to start in January. May the odds be ever in your favor.

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