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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Who decided to have regionals in Hawaii?

    Soccer is already expensive as is. Putting regionals in Hawaii, one of the more expensive places to travel to, is a slap in the face to fight against pay-to-play.

    Airfare about $1000.
    Hotel for eight days $500.
    Coaches air/hotel $400
    Fee to US Soccer $100
    Food $300
    Vans $200

    Over $2,500 per player. About 600 teams competing. Over $22 million dollars!

    Entire boys teams have voted to pass on regionals this year if they win because of the cost.

    When regionals are in Seattle or Boise you can cut your hotel short if you are eliminated. Can't do that in Hawaii.

    It's not surprising. US Soccer doesn't seem to care about the kids or the game.
    That's a lot of money for rec-level play too. Better off to do Thornz Asylum and get the same level of play for less cash.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I know some state associations give big bucks to support teams going to regionals. Something in the range of $4000-$6000 per team.

      I assume OYSA is stepping up this year and giving big support to the teams going to regionals?
      OYSA has no money. All the money goes directly to the pockets of Peregrine LLC. And they aren't spending a dime to help any OYSA rec team go to Hawaii.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        As you know, Region IV decides where to have regionals. States put in a proposal to host and they must be able to have a minimum number of fields. The region changes up who the host state will be in order to make everything fair for all teams traveling from all over our region. Same could be said about Hawaii's teams always traveling to the mainland. Hawaii was announced in August 2017. Last time there was 2013. I had kids there in 2003 and 2008 as well as 2013. Now have a granddaughter that could go this year.

        Yes. Hawaii is expensive and teams need to plan carefully, especially since our state has state cup later than many of the other states within or region. Makes it tough to rent rooms and transportation.

        So tired of the "US Soccer doesn't seem to care about the kids or the game" whining. Not true. If you can't afford for your player to go, then you keep him/her off the team roster for state cup. If your team wins and can't go, then the finalist has the option to go in your team's place. If the finalist says, "No", then you pay the fines. Your team shouldn't enter state cup if it's not prepared to travel for the next level, and even the rare occasion of making it to Nationals. Your team has the option not to go. It happens. You pay fines to the region and OYSA for non-compliance. Your team could also face sanctions.
        Region IV doesn't exist anymore. All "regional" competitions are now centrally managed by US Youth Soccer national HQ directly.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          My understanding is that US Soccer charges a very high fee to get into Regionals and then mark up the hotel rooms substantially with stay and play.

          Does US Soccer get a kick back on the hotel rooms they require teams to book through?
          US Soccer will fine you $1,500 if you don’t go through their Stay and Pay program. So they are probably getting a that much x 200 teams. Nice profits. Well done!

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            OYSA/timbers cough up a couple hundred bucks per team. That'll get each player a rice bowl and a gatorade after a game. Real generous if you ask me.

            Low income families and kids can't might not be able to go but there are much worse things in life.
            Oysa makes huge profits on leagues and cups. They should have huge cash reserves.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              US Soccer will fine you $1,500 if you don’t go through their Stay and Pay program. So they are probably getting a that much x 200 teams. Nice profits. Well done!
              US Soccer has nothing to do with USYS regionals.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Who decided to have regionals in Hawaii?

                Soccer is already expensive as is. Putting regionals in Hawaii, one of the more expensive places to travel to, is a slap in the face to fight against pay-to-play.

                Airfare about $1000.
                Hotel for eight days $500.
                Coaches air/hotel $400
                Fee to US Soccer $100
                Food $300
                Vans $200

                Over $2,500 per player. About 600 teams competing. Over $22 million dollars!

                Entire boys teams have voted to pass on regionals this year if they win because of the cost.

                When regionals are in Seattle or Boise you can cut your hotel short if you are eliminated. Can't do that in Hawaii.

                It's not surprising. US Soccer doesn't seem to care about the kids or the game.
                You’re just figuring this out? Soccer is a business. Look for a club that doesn’t think like that

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Oysa makes huge profits on leagues and cups. They should have huge cash reserves.
                  You mean Peregrine LLC makes huge profits. All those checks are made out to Peregrine, not OYSA.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You mean Peregrine LLC makes huge profits. All those checks are made out to Peregrine, not OYSA.
                    There is a lot of cash generated by the tournaments and cups. Where is all that money?

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                      #25
                      Regionals in Hawaii will be very expensive.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Regionals in Hawaii will be very expensive.
                        Really really expensive just to get their butts whooped. Can't barely win in Oregon and wanna travel for what? To sight see I guess! U18 nemesis is only team I can see winning in Hawaii.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Who decided to have regionals in Hawaii?

                          Soccer is already expensive as is. Putting regionals in Hawaii, one of the more expensive places to travel to, is a slap in the face to fight against pay-to-play.

                          Airfare about $1000.
                          Hotel for eight days $500.
                          Coaches air/hotel $400
                          Fee to US Soccer $100
                          Food $300
                          Vans $200

                          Over $2,500 per player. About 600 teams competing. Over $22 million dollars!

                          Entire boys teams have voted to pass on regionals this year if they win because of the cost.

                          When regionals are in Seattle or Boise you can cut your hotel short if you are eliminated. Can't do that in Hawaii.

                          It's not surprising. US Soccer doesn't seem to care about the kids or the game.


                          2,000 players competing per FWR website. At $1,000 per player for airfare that’s about $2,000,000 in needless costs. What a waste!

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                            #28
                            OYSA players pay fees to Peregrine which filters to Thorns for free travel for players (multiple year-round). Sucks to see OYSA families struggle for just one travel this year.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Who decided to have regionals in Hawaii?

                              Soccer is already expensive as is. Putting regionals in Hawaii, one of the more expensive places to travel to, is a slap in the face to fight against pay-to-play.

                              Airfare about $1000.
                              Hotel for eight days $500.
                              Coaches air/hotel $400
                              Fee to US Soccer $100
                              Food $300
                              Vans $200

                              Over $2,500 per player. About 600 teams competing. Over $22 million dollars!

                              Entire boys teams have voted to pass on regionals this year if they win because of the cost.

                              When regionals are in Seattle or Boise you can cut your hotel short if you are eliminated. Can't do that in Hawaii.

                              It's not surprising. US Soccer doesn't seem to care about the kids or the game.
                              Your math is wrong but I get your point. It’s irresponsible to put a regional tournament in Hawaii.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Really really expensive just to get their butts whooped. Can't barely win in Oregon and wanna travel for what? To sight see I guess! U18 nemesis is only team I can see winning in Hawaii.
                                It’s funny how active this thread got after the semifinals games yesterday. Lots of losing teams telling themselves “we are glad we aren’t going to Hawaii.” Do those sour grapes taste good?

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