I'm trying to decide if ODP is worth it for my 2005 DD. She plays for a top EDP team that have played and beaten ECNL/NPL teams in tournaments. Is ODP worth it for her development or should I just invest in individual training? Can you guys share some of your experiences with ODP? Thanks.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'm trying to decide if ODP is worth it for my 2005 DD. She plays for a top EDP team that have played and beaten ECNL/NPL teams in tournaments. Is ODP worth it for her development or should I just invest in individual training? Can you guys share some of your experiences with ODP? Thanks.
If she makes the pool, then you can decide if it worth it.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'm trying to decide if ODP is worth it for my 2005 DD. She plays for a top EDP team that have played and beaten ECNL/NPL teams in tournaments. Is ODP worth it for her development or should I just invest in individual training? Can you guys share some of your experiences with ODP? Thanks.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postcan i ask why who they have beaten is relevant to your kids development ?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'm trying to decide if ODP is worth it for my 2005 DD. She plays for a top EDP team that have played and beaten ECNL/NPL teams in tournaments. Is ODP worth it for her development or should I just invest in individual training? Can you guys share some of your experiences with ODP? Thanks.
In case you aren’t aware of the structure, these tryouts are for the 19/20 state teams. The regional pools (New England to Virginia) were selected at the recent summer camps. She would have to make the state team and then attend the 2020 camp to be eligible for the region 1 pool.
Another factor is where in NJ you live. It can be difficult to get to Rider for a 5:30 practice during the week.
For us, it was a good experience for one year but we’re weighing the value of doing it again.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt's $40 for tryouts and seeing where your dd is at. Nothing to lose.
If she makes the pool, then you can decide if it worth it.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDepends on your daughter’s goals. I think my daughter benefited this year bc she’s with a smaller club and it exposed her to playing faster with more talent on the field - she had a larger margin for growth perhaps than others who play at higher levels. Coaches were good but practices too infrequent to say they had a huge impact on development. Again, depends on current level of coaching she is getting.
In case you aren’t aware of the structure, these tryouts are for the 19/20 state teams. The regional pools (New England to Virginia) were selected at the recent summer camps. She would have to make the state team and then attend the 2020 camp to be eligible for the region 1 pool.
Another factor is where in NJ you live. It can be difficult to get to Rider for a 5:30 practice during the week.
For us, it was a good experience for one year but we’re weighing the value of doing it again.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHow can you decide if it is worth it by just just getting accepted? Does anyone have any feedback on the training, environment or games that might help? Thanks
Again, if it's just for training find a good trainer locally and maybe split the costs with a few other players of a similar level.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHow can you decide if it is worth it by just just getting accepted? Does anyone have any feedback on the training, environment or games that might help? Thanks
can make the cut and make the 18 for travel? There are 4 tryout dates
for $40. Use this as a gauge of where your dd is compared to other girls.
This is very similar to a college ID camp. Within the first tryout, you
should know where your girl is at. They will group them randomly and
then start moving kids around. Your kid needs to be in the top group.
Your dd is late to the game as an 05. Your kid has to beat out any
returning 18 travel team kids. Regional pool or boca kids has a spot.
The whole point is to travel and hopefully, make the regional pool and boca.
Do not let others fool you. Very, very good players still do ODP.
Unless your kid is a stud, use this opportunity as a gauge of where
she is. Can be good or can be very bad, as blow to her confidence.
Good luck.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostKey words, "getting accepted". Why worry about anything unless your dd
can make the cut and make the 18 for travel? There are 4 tryout dates
for $40. Use this as a gauge of where your dd is compared to other girls.
This is very similar to a college ID camp. Within the first tryout, you
should know where your girl is at. They will group them randomly and
then start moving kids around. Your kid needs to be in the top group.
Your dd is late to the game as an 05. Your kid has to beat out any
returning 18 travel team kids. Regional pool or boca kids has a spot.
The whole point is to travel and hopefully, make the regional pool and boca.
Do not let others fool you. Very, very good players still do ODP.
Unless your kid is a stud, use this opportunity as a gauge of where
she is. Can be good or can be very bad, as blow to her confidence.
Good luck.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostKey words, "getting accepted". Why worry about anything unless your dd
can make the cut and make the 18 for travel? There are 4 tryout dates
for $40. Use this as a gauge of where your dd is compared to other girls.
This is very similar to a college ID camp. Within the first tryout, you
should know where your girl is at. They will group them randomly and
then start moving kids around. Your kid needs to be in the top group.
Your dd is late to the game as an 05. Your kid has to beat out any
returning 18 travel team kids. Regional pool or boca kids has a spot.
The whole point is to travel and hopefully, make the regional pool and boca.
Do not let others fool you. Very, very good players still do ODP.
Unless your kid is a stud, use this opportunity as a gauge of where
she is. Can be good or can be very bad, as blow to her confidence.
Good luck.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThanks for the info. This makes a lot of sense.
No exposure at all
Id2 and national training center have made odp obsolete
Don’t waste your time or money
Real Olympic development programs are free id2 national training center.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOdp is a money grab
No exposure at all
Id2 and national training center have made odp obsolete
Don’t waste your time or money
Real Olympic development programs are free id2 national training center.
Not everyone can afford those leagues. ODP is a good option for exposure.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFree? You have to be on either GDA or ECNL. GDA and ECNL are FAR from free $$$$$.
Not everyone can afford those leagues. ODP is a good option for exposure.
You do not have to be in those leagues to get into
Id2 or ntc.
Your coach has to recommend you for pdp and id2 or ntc.
Please tell
Me who is coming to odp it odp regional to
Watch.
Btw
Look at the coaching lists for npl
National Championship and usys national championship
There are 20 women’s coaches at the whole event 13 are from good schools.
As far as the cost . If you played a tsf psa copa etc you
Paid the same tuition as a gda or ecnl
Clubs
You traveled to showcases out of state ie jeff Cup nc Las Vegas Florida. If your team made regionals or nations you went to west va and Kansas so travel
Expenses were similar if not more.
If you didn’t do this events then why are you even talking about odp
Oh because you really know nothing about youth soccer and grasping at straws
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostObviously you know nothing about youth soccer
You do not have to be in those leagues to get into
Id2 or ntc.
Your coach has to recommend you for pdp and id2 or ntc.
Please tell
Me who is coming to odp it odp regional to
Watch.
Btw
Look at the coaching lists for npl
National Championship and usys national championship
There are 20 women’s coaches at the whole event 13 are from good schools.
As far as the cost . If you played a tsf psa copa etc you
Paid the same tuition as a gda or ecnl
Clubs
You traveled to showcases out of state ie jeff Cup nc Las Vegas Florida. If your team made regionals or nations you went to west va and Kansas so travel
Expenses were similar if not more.
If you didn’t do this events then why are you even talking about odp
Oh because you really know nothing about youth soccer and grasping at straws
All of these are good on a resume.
PDP, ID2 - for US Club teams (I don’t think this is for USSoccer) and there are nuances. PDP is based from the league, ID2 is cross league but for only a single age group. DA/GDA players are not allowed to participate, which is a shame.
ODP - good to make it into a regional team, if not making it to regional team, focus efforts elsewhere. Some girls went in from regional team to the national team camp (not NTC)
Finally NTC - this may be used as a political tool, as US Soccer will invite USSoccer club players. You can see that the number of invites to NTC from PDA is dwindling compared to previous seasons.
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