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Realities of club soccer, would you do something different?
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Looking back, may have been wiser to put the money into SAT and ACT reviews and invested more money into their college education because the reality of playing college soccer at a college of the player's top choices is slim. Fifty thousand freshmen applications are expected to roll in to FSU and UF for 2018, and participation in travel soccer won't give them an advantage into getting admitted. It will be mostly based off of GPA and SAT or ACT to make the cut.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI saw a earlier post on this page and thought I would put a twist on the question...
Parents, who have kids who are all done playing club (or near done) now that you have the advantage of hind site, what would you do different?
Asking for a friend.
My children (two girls and a boy) were talented and skilled enough to play competitive soccer, two of them at so-called "elite" level of competition. If I had it to do over, I would have encouraged them all to stay in rec programs instead. The fitness, friendships, sportsmanship, discipline, etc. that come from playing team sports can be found on rec teams every bit as much as on comp teams. Without the drama.
I didn't mind the expense or the travel. I didn't mind the crazy packed conflicting schedules.
I didn't care for the back-stabbing, condescension, snarkiness, and destructive gossip. And I'm describing the parents. Unfortunately, parent behavior was predictably replicated by their precious offspring.
I didn't care for coaches who think life is measured in gold medals and college signings when that doesn't account for the needs and expectations of the majority of their players. None of my kids had the slightest interest in playing once they went to college and didn't pursue recruitment even though one of them definitely could have if she'd wanted to. Didn't matter to me which route she went, I'd have supported her either way. But she wanted college to be about parties and academics, not 5:30 a.m. soccer practices every day.
I know those who worship at the altars of DA, ECNL, and whatever league they prefer will gasp in collective horror, but I honestly believe club competitive soccer has more downsides for children than positive attributes.
Just my opinion.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'm not going to bother reading the other responses. Instead, I'm going to take your question seriously and answer it candidly.
My children (two girls and a boy) were talented and skilled enough to play competitive soccer, two of them at so-called "elite" level of competition. If I had it to do over, I would have encouraged them all to stay in rec programs instead. The fitness, friendships, sportsmanship, discipline, etc. that come from playing team sports can be found on rec teams every bit as much as on comp teams. Without the drama.
I didn't mind the expense or the travel. I didn't mind the crazy packed conflicting schedules.
I didn't care for the back-stabbing, condescension, snarkiness, and destructive gossip. And I'm describing the parents. Unfortunately, parent behavior was predictably replicated by their precious offspring.
I didn't care for coaches who think life is measured in gold medals and college signings when that doesn't account for the needs and expectations of the majority of their players. None of my kids had the slightest interest in playing once they went to college and didn't pursue recruitment even though one of them definitely could have if she'd wanted to. Didn't matter to me which route she went, I'd have supported her either way. But she wanted college to be about parties and academics, not 5:30 a.m. soccer practices every day.
I know those who worship at the altars of DA, ECNL, and whatever league they prefer will gasp in collective horror, but I honestly believe club competitive soccer has more downsides for children than positive attributes.
Just my opinion.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLooking back, may have been wiser to put the money into SAT and ACT reviews and invested more money into their college education because the reality of playing college soccer at a college of the player's top choices is slim. Fifty thousand freshmen applications are expected to roll in to FSU and UF for 2018, and participation in travel soccer won't give them an advantage into getting admitted. It will be mostly based off of GPA and SAT or ACT to make the cut.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'm not going to bother reading the other responses. Instead, I'm going to take your question seriously and answer it candidly.
My children (two girls and a boy) were talented and skilled enough to play competitive soccer, two of them at so-called "elite" level of competition. If I had it to do over, I would have encouraged them all to stay in rec programs instead. The fitness, friendships, sportsmanship, discipline, etc. that come from playing team sports can be found on rec teams every bit as much as on comp teams. Without the drama.
I didn't mind the expense or the travel. I didn't mind the crazy packed conflicting schedules.
I didn't care for the back-stabbing, condescension, snarkiness, and destructive gossip. And I'm describing the parents. Unfortunately, parent behavior was predictably replicated by their precious offspring.
I didn't care for coaches who think life is measured in gold medals and college signings when that doesn't account for the needs and expectations of the majority of their players. None of my kids had the slightest interest in playing once they went to college and didn't pursue recruitment even though one of them definitely could have if she'd wanted to. Didn't matter to me which route she went, I'd have supported her either way. But she wanted college to be about parties and academics, not 5:30 a.m. soccer practices every day.
I know those who worship at the altars of DA, ECNL, and whatever league they prefer will gasp in collective horror, but I honestly believe club competitive soccer has more downsides for children than positive attributes.
Just my opinion.
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Thanks for the candid responses. We are still early in the competitive process. I heard another parent this evening complaining about parents on her DA team this evening. I said the solution was to grow local soccer leagues. Kids shouldn't have to travel to get competitive quality play.
Better coaching and each reasonably sized city could have their own decent competitive league. And from what I've seen while club soccer is indeed better than rec soccer I'm not convinced it has much better coaching on the whole.
It seems like each club has a few good coaches and then a bunch of very mediocre ones.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe colleges aren't supposed to be using race, economic level, or zip code but they do to keep the diversity balanced to a tee. UF and FSU have become big business and out-of-state students will be admitted at a high percentage to get back the exact 23-25% of out-of-state fall freshmen enrollment.
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Harvard admissions dean confirmed there were different SAT standards required for different groups of students with regard to race and gender.
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Originally posted by Unregistered-J View PostThanks for the candid responses. We are still early in the competitive process. I heard another parent this evening complaining about parents on her DA team this evening. I said the solution was to grow local soccer leagues. Kids shouldn't have to travel to get competitive quality play.
Better coaching and each reasonably sized city could have their own decent competitive league. And from what I've seen while club soccer is indeed better than rec soccer I'm not convinced it has much better coaching on the whole.
It seems like each club has a few good coaches and then a bunch of very mediocre ones.
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Originally posted by Unregistered-J View PostThanks for the candid responses. We are still early in the competitive process. I heard another parent this evening complaining about parents on her DA team this evening. I said the solution was to grow local soccer leagues. Kids shouldn't have to travel to get competitive quality play.
Better coaching and each reasonably sized city could have their own decent competitive league. And from what I've seen while club soccer is indeed better than rec soccer I'm not convinced it has much better coaching on the whole.
It seems like each club has a few good coaches and then a bunch of very mediocre ones.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe colleges aren't supposed to be using race, economic level, or zip code but they do to keep the diversity balanced to a tee. UF and FSU have become big business and out-of-state students will be admitted at a high percentage to get back the exact 23-25% of out-of-state fall freshmen enrollment.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBecause outside of big football and basketball (that et big $ from TV and advertising) every other sport costs schools money. Sometimes schools have to prioritize and make tough choices. It's hard enough to have enough female athletes to counter football. Add in soccer and there's an additional hurdle. There are 100 fewer men's D1 programs than women's, so those are not the only schools opting out of men's soccer
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhat women's sports could be added for UF and FSU to gain mens soccer to balance?
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