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5 Minutes Ago 12:30 PM
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Do you believe in unicorns also?
Do you watch sports? Competing in sports exposes players for what they can bring to the game and what they need to work on.

I would bet most posters on TS have kids playing at a high level. They are pretty dominant at a lower level. They move up to greater competition and it is much harder to succeed when challenged by other strong players. When the whistle blows the kids have to do what they can do and mom and dad dont have much to do with it, especially as they get older.
15 Minutes Ago 12:20 PM
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Teenage girls that LISC is using as marketing tools, so if it bothers you so much, take it up with the club. Oh and nobody can post anything even neutral (let alone negative) on BOTN because LISC is paying a boatload of $$$ to have comments censored. The only thing you'll find about LISC on BOTN is hoardes of advertising-full color ads as banners and in thread comments, scrolls pushing their "meetings" and "player ID" aka tryouts and "Big" "game changing" (lol) announcements of same old, same old. Even a legitimate question is met with some ridiculous response from LM about being jealous that-your kid doesn't have what it takes to play at LISC, which we all know is laughable considering LISC will take any kid with a pulse.

Dude....thank you fir proving my point with anorher egative crazy post about teenagers...
So LISC is posting advertisements so are twenty other clubs...smh...please go away...
27 Minutes Ago 12:08 PM
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I also agree with your thoughts here. However, I have seen the "rare" parents you speak of right here on LI from these "elite" clubs...kids crying on the field and yelling back at their parents to stop because they are embarrassed. Parents cussing at children and telling their little prodigies to take other girls out. You've seen them too...they're typically the ones trolling close the sidelines - never sitting, always standing...generally pacing. Parents yelling across the field at coaches and accosting them right after games.

Both types are toxic to this soccer community. I also know its not limited to LI.

My personal opinion is that you cannot make another adult do anything they don't want to. However, if these academies took their development of players seriously, they would never allow this behavior. They'd notice how this toxicity bleeds onto the field. Changing what should be a socially dynamic experience to an 'all about me' or 'my kid spells team with an I' disaster.

But, oh well...the cycle will continue for years to come because all of these clubs aren't focused on the greater good of developing quality competition as much as they care about which parent can threaten the most with a bigger check.

Our national landscape is a mess. I wish someone could truly see how lucrative the foreign soccer program models are; perfect them here and be about that. If we take away the funding of these youth programs from the parents...and had the federation apportion scholarships to clubs that recruit competitive players based on true ability....well then, we might have a start to something truly special....
I agree clubs need to squash it. The good ones do. But many do not. They're too desperate to keep a good player no matter how toxic the player or parents may be. Many clubs are too desperate to keep players at all. There's too many clubs, not enough talent.
29 Minutes Ago 12:06 PM
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Don't worry so much about that. When the players take the field they will play how they play. At the end of the day, in sports it comes down to what happens on the field.
Do you believe in unicorns also?
30 Minutes Ago 12:05 PM
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I saw that segment as well. Problem is the types of parents they were talking about really are pretty rare. It's the sneaky, behind your back club parents you have to watch out for. The kind that will say snarky things about kids, pretend they're friends with everyone but are just sneaky out information, jockey to get favors for their untalented kids etc. That you can't catch on your cell phone and post and it's far more insidious to youth sports.
Don't worry so much about that. When the players take the field they will play how they play. At the end of the day, in sports it comes down to what happens on the field.
33 Minutes Ago 12:02 PM
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I saw that segment as well. Problem is the types of parents they were talking about really are pretty rare. It's the sneaky, behind your back club parents you have to watch out for. The kind that will say snarky things about kids, pretend they're friends with everyone but are just sneaky out information, jockey to get favors for their untalented kids etc. That you can't catch on your cell phone and post and it's far more insidious to youth sports.
I also agree with your thoughts here. However, I have seen the "rare" parents you speak of right here on LI from these "elite" clubs...kids crying on the field and yelling back at their parents to stop because they are embarrassed. Parents cussing at children and telling their little prodigies to take other girls out. You've seen them too...they're typically the ones trolling close the sidelines - never sitting, always standing...generally pacing. Parents yelling across the field at coaches and accosting them right after games.

Both types are toxic to this soccer community. I also know its not limited to LI.

My personal opinion is that you cannot make another adult do anything they don't want to. However, if these academies took their development of players seriously, they would never allow this behavior. They'd notice how this toxicity bleeds onto the field. Changing what should be a socially dynamic experience to an 'all about me' or 'my kid spells team with an I' disaster.

But, oh well...the cycle will continue for years to come because all of these clubs aren't focused on the greater good of developing quality competition as much as they care about which parent can threaten the most with a bigger check.

Our national landscape is a mess. I wish someone could truly see how lucrative the foreign soccer program models are; perfect them here and be about that. If we take away the funding of these youth programs from the parents...and had the federation apportion scholarships to clubs that recruit competitive players based on true ability....well then, we might have a start to something truly special....
1 Hour Ago 11:14 AM
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Agreed. So simple in concept. Lets put positivity back into youth sports. Not saying LISC is the answer because, well, its not...not for everyone. The toxicity as exhibited by the previous poster is a major problem with all youth sports.

I watched a segment on GMA this morning about out of control parents in youth sports and how their involvement is a challenge for refs at games. So a soccer ref (and parent) created this website where these foul mouth, ill-mannered parents can be outted for all to see and judge in hopes to tame the behavior at these youth sport games. They are paying people to upload videos and other media onto their site.

The latter is not the healthiest of ideas - but if it makes an impact to embarrass these adults who are utterly shameful - then I myself am here for it. Pass the popcorn, please...
I saw that segment as well. Problem is the types of parents they were talking about really are pretty rare. It's the sneaky, behind your back club parents you have to watch out for. The kind that will say snarky things about kids, pretend they're friends with everyone but are just sneaky out information, jockey to get favors for their untalented kids etc. That you can't catch on your cell phone and post and it's far more insidious to youth sports.
2 Hours Ago 10:10 AM
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Lots of clubs need players and advertising is one way to try to attract some.

Who cares if a club markets themselves or pay botn for promotion? Everyone understands that discussions on botn are bought and paid for.

On ts why can't we just discuss the situation without insulting children. Gossiping about kids is for botn, not ts.
Agreed. So simple in concept. Lets put positivity back into youth sports. Not saying LISC is the answer because, well, its not...not for everyone. The toxicity as exhibited by the previous poster is a major problem with all youth sports.

I watched a segment on GMA this morning about out of control parents in youth sports and how their involvement is a challenge for refs at games. So a soccer ref (and parent) created this website where these foul mouth, ill-mannered parents can be outted for all to see and judge in hopes to tame the behavior at these youth sport games. They are paying people to upload videos and other media onto their site.

The latter is not the healthiest of ideas - but if it makes an impact to embarrass these adults who are utterly shameful - then I myself am here for it. Pass the popcorn, please...
3 Hours Ago 09:35 AM
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Teenage girls that LISC is using as marketing tools, so if it bothers you so much, take it up with the club. Oh and nobody can post anything even neutral (let alone negative) on BOTN because LISC is paying a boatload of $$$ to have comments censored. The only thing you'll find about LISC on BOTN is hoardes of advertising-full color ads as banners and in thread comments, scrolls pushing their "meetings" and "player ID" aka tryouts and "Big" "game changing" (lol) announcements of same old, same old. Even a legitimate question is met with some ridiculous response from LM about being jealous that-your kid doesn't have what it takes to play at LISC, which we all know is laughable considering LISC will take any kid with a pulse.
Lots of clubs need players and advertising is one way to try to attract some.

Who cares if a club markets themselves or pay botn for promotion? Everyone understands that discussions on botn are bought and paid for.

On ts why can't we just discuss the situation without insulting children. Gossiping about kids is for botn, not ts.
3 Hours Ago 09:02 AM
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Dude please stop these are teenage girls.....better yet go post at BOTN with all the other crazies
Teenage girls that LISC is using as marketing tools, so if it bothers you so much, take it up with the club. Oh and nobody can post anything even neutral (let alone negative) on BOTN because LISC is paying a boatload of $$$ to have comments censored. The only thing you'll find about LISC on BOTN is hoardes of advertising-full color ads as banners and in thread comments, scrolls pushing their "meetings" and "player ID" aka tryouts and "Big" "game changing" (lol) announcements of same old, same old. Even a legitimate question is met with some ridiculous response from LM about being jealous that-your kid doesn't have what it takes to play at LISC, which we all know is laughable considering LISC will take any kid with a pulse.
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