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**Unregistered** · 02-27-2021, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Nice article on Hoppe in SI:
Matthew Hoppe: Schalke prospect's rise to USMNT radar - Sports Illustrated

Berhalter didnt even know this kids name until he scored his hat trick in the Bundesliga.
LA Galaxy idiots cut him after first year.
Not one youth national team training camp invite.
US soccer people are abject morons, incompetent, unable to identify talent, corrupt and slaves to conflicted interests.

European coaches at Barca Academy in Arizona recognized his talent, gave him a scholarship for their residency program. They switched his position to draw that talent out. They nurtured it, and he became leading scorer in DA two straight years. Sent to Schalke trial with references from Barca, they signed him, he now flourishes in Bundesliga.

In contrast, the way its done here in US by American coaches - if you are the son of a big whig (Reyna's kid, Bradley's kid, countless others) you are in. If your parents are soccer big whigs (Pulisic) you are in. Its a form of soccer aristocracy.

Morons here on TS want to claim there is nothing wrong with USMNT system and "Hoppe was just a late bloomer". There is no such thing as a late bloomer in soccer, a sport which takes consistent work and development from ages of 4 or 5. What there is, is idiot coaches and scouts, incompetency, corruption, conflicts of interest, lack of any financial incentive, cronyism and politics. Until this is fixed we deserve to be embarrassed every world cup.

Took u this long to figure this out. This is why we put an end to running club to club chasing the invisible dream . It's a joke

**Unregistered** · 02-27-2021, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Nice article on Hoppe in SI:
Matthew Hoppe: Schalke prospect's rise to USMNT radar - Sports Illustrated

Berhalter didnt even know this kids name until he scored his hat trick in the Bundesliga.
LA Galaxy idiots cut him after first year.
Not one youth national team training camp invite.
US soccer people are abject morons, incompetent, unable to identify talent, corrupt and slaves to conflicted interests.

European coaches at Barca Academy in Arizona recognized his talent, gave him a scholarship for their residency program. They switched his position to draw that talent out. They nurtured it, and he became leading scorer in DA two straight years. Sent to Schalke trial with references from Barca, they signed him, he now flourishes in Bundesliga.

In contrast, the way its done here in US by American coaches - if you are the son of a big whig (Reyna's kid, Bradley's kid, countless others) you are in. If your parents are soccer big whigs (Pulisic) you are in. Its a form of soccer aristocracy.

Morons here on TS want to claim there is nothing wrong with USMNT system and "Hoppe was just a late bloomer". There is no such thing as a late bloomer in soccer, a sport which takes consistent work and development from ages of 4 or 5. What there is, is idiot coaches and scouts, incompetency, corruption, conflicts of interest, lack of any financial incentive, cronyism and politics. Until this is fixed we deserve to be embarrassed every world cup.

Nothing like pointing to an outlier as proof positive.

1 kid that hadn�t been called into a US camps but had some success in Europe is proof that ALL SCOUTING sucks? I�m sorry you�re a moron.

Athletes / prospects IN EVERY SPORT sometimes are under appreciated. In football, baseball, and basketball there are WAY MORE examples of players that were under rated or not rated at all and subsequently go on to tremendous success. It�s NOT UNIQUE to US Soccer.

I guess US Soccer is the only one that�s not allowed to miss on assessments? Oh....wait....he�s only 19 years old and has plenty of opportunities to play at various age group teams or even the full NT, so I guess they didn�t miss on him at all.....

Moron

**Unregistered** · 02-27-2021, 09:27 PM

I guess Jamie Vardy is proof English soccer sucks too

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Nothing like pointing to an outlier as proof positive.

1 kid that hadn�t been called into a US camps but had some success in Europe is proof that ALL SCOUTING sucks? I�m sorry you�re a moron.

Athletes / prospects IN EVERY SPORT sometimes are under appreciated. In football, baseball, and basketball there are WAY MORE examples of players that were under rated or not rated at all and subsequently go on to tremendous success. It�s NOT UNIQUE to US Soccer.

I guess US Soccer is the only one that�s not allowed to miss on assessments? Oh....wait....he�s only 19 years old and has plenty of opportunities to play at various age group teams or even the full NT, so I guess they didn�t miss on him at all.....

Moron

**Unregistered** · 02-27-2021, 10:27 PM

Michael Jordan was cut from his High School basketball team at a similar age that Hoppe wasn�t getting called into US camps.

Yet, by 19 years old it was apparent Jordan was an elite prospect. Hmmmmmmmm, it�s almost like sometimes athletes develop at different rates. Some peak early and plateau. Some develop later and reach higher peaks.

Hoppe is only 19 years old. He�s 6 foot 3 inches. That size quite an advantage for a striker. Has he always been bigger / stronger throughout his youth or is that something he�s develops into?

Do you even know or are you just quick to condemn the system?

**Unregistered** · 02-28-2021, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

I guess Jamie Vardy is proof English soccer sucks too

Jamie vardy is the number 1 goal scorer for epl. 🤔

**Unregistered** · 02-28-2021, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Michael Jordan was cut from his High School basketball team at a similar age that Hoppe wasn�t getting called into US camps.

Yet, by 19 years old it was apparent Jordan was an elite prospect. Hmmmmmmmm, it�s almost like sometimes athletes develop at different rates. Some peak early and plateau. Some develop later and reach higher peaks.

Hoppe is only 19 years old. He�s 6 foot 3 inches. That size quite an advantage for a striker. Has he always been bigger / stronger throughout his youth or is that something he�s develops into?

Do you even know or are you just quick to condemn the system?

Well one thing for sure is that the system isn't working & if you think it is then your part of the problem.

**Unregistered** · 02-28-2021, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Nothing like pointing to an outlier as proof positive.

1 kid that hadn�t been called into a US camps but had some success in Europe is proof that ALL SCOUTING sucks? I�m sorry you�re a moron.

Athletes / prospects IN EVERY SPORT sometimes are under appreciated. In football, baseball, and basketball there are WAY MORE examples of players that were under rated or not rated at all and subsequently go on to tremendous success. It�s NOT UNIQUE to US Soccer.

I guess US Soccer is the only one that�s not allowed to miss on assessments? Oh....wait....he�s only 19 years old and has plenty of opportunities to play at various age group teams or even the full NT, so I guess they didn�t miss on him at all.....

Moron

The environment can make or break you obviously he got that environment which allowed him to explode

**Unregistered** · 03-01-2021, 09:48 AM

Nobody cares about mens soccer in the US

**Unregistered** · 03-01-2021, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Well one thing for sure is that the system isn't working & if you think it is then your part of the problem.

wait....The system isn't working? or WASN'T working?

Because RIGHT NOW ..... there have never been more talented players playing for big clubs in Europe. There have never been a time when more Americans were getting opportunities in Europe. The future prospects for the USMNT have never been so bright. If you don't know this, then you are part of the ignorant American soccer fan problem.

**Unregistered** · 03-01-2021, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Michael Jordan was cut from his High School basketball team at a similar age that Hoppe wasn�t getting called into US camps.

Yet, by 19 years old it was apparent Jordan was an elite prospect. Hmmmmmmmm, it�s almost like sometimes athletes develop at different rates. Some peak early and plateau. Some develop later and reach higher peaks.

Hoppe is only 19 years old. He�s 6 foot 3 inches. That size quite an advantage for a striker. Has he always been bigger / stronger throughout his youth or is that something he�s develops into?

Do you even know or are you just quick to condemn the system?

They never cut Jordan from the high school team.....

**Unregistered** · 03-01-2021, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

wait....The system isn't working? or WASN'T working?

Because RIGHT NOW ..... there have never been more talented players playing for big clubs in Europe. There have never been a time when more Americans were getting opportunities in Europe. The future prospects for the USMNT have never been so bright. If you don't know this, then you are part of the ignorant American soccer fan problem.

Fifa ranking please.Also take into consideration that most country's are smaller than most States.Or we could represent 50 country's & how many World class players do we produce,Zero.

**Unregistered** · 03-01-2021, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Fifa ranking please.Also take into consideration that most country's are smaller than most States.Or we could represent 50 country's & how many World class players do we produce,Zero.

Just checked & Wales with a population of 3 million & a suspended coach sits at 18th,USA 25th.Sorry but that's pathetic.

**Unregistered** · 03-01-2021, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

They never cut Jordan from the high school team.....

he was cut in HS, as a freshman I believe. very well documented

**Unregistered** · 03-01-2021, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Fifa ranking please.Also take into consideration that most country's are smaller than most States.Or we could represent 50 country's & how many World class players do we produce,Zero.

fifa rankings are based recent results....and as the young talented US players have started to come into their own in the last 12-18 months...there has been this thing called Covid that has prevented national teams from playing.

if you seriously don't realize that this sis the best crop of talented young Americans ever then you are clueless and should read more, listen more, and watch more....you have no credibility.

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