Not their own league but I noticed one of the other Juventus teams were removed from the U13 division.

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They didn't make up their own league. Their top teams play in the USYS National League (managed by EDP). EDP has been around forever, they have conferences throughout the country, they just recently created a New England Conference. With COVID the conference is split up by state because of restrictions.

Their regional teams play in the NECSL also a new league this year.

The clubs have zero affiliation with ownership or management of the league.

Troll warning lights are flahsing but let's assume it is an honest question-

First, US Youth Soccer National League is a real league. New to the region but a real league none the less. Will it succeed in New England? Who knows!

Second, Surf and Juventus are new clubs to the region and, surprise surprise, the existing "bigs" don't want to let them have a piece of their pie. They have literally set up the leagues to allow the incumbent clubs to control access to them.

This is an excellent point and one that shouldn't be lost on parents when picking a league to root for. It provides an open league with pathway to national level competition.

US Club Soccer (ECNL) was created by the clubs for the clubs to provide a venue to control the market for the founding clubs.

And was wildly successful on the girls side, so much so that ECNL was a one-stop shop for D1 programs across the country. It was so successful that it forced US Soccer to start Girls Development Academy, which eventually fell apart because, well, it was stupid (and US Soccer was being sued into oblivion and running out of money).

Parents looking for information, don't be fooled. This "National Pathway" BS is just that. Literally no one cares about it but the parents. Coaches aren't going to these events either, well, not D1 anyway.

As to why Juventus and Surf play EDP and whatever that SC start-up league is, it's because they weren't allowed into NEP for local competition (I mean, these guys were all GPS minions before Surf/Juventus right) and will never see ECNL, GAL nor MLS NEXT for top level competition. NPL has essentially disappeared into irrelevance, so EDP is it for these 2nd rate clubs.

And if you are really serious about soccer you'll move to southern california where the the actually good teams are haha ... snow-bound suckers

D1 coaches are not going to ECNL events at the moment either.haha. Is ECNL a strong national league, yes, no one would argue that. Is EDP and the USYS a strong league throughout the Nation.yes.If you deny that.well it's purely due to some agenda you may have in the local market to try keep competition out.

Do you know how many years NEP kept EDP out of New England? If you're anyone involved in club soccer in this the region, which I hope you are based on your claims, there are plenty of email threads from NEP throughout the years threatening clubs who would support EDP coming into the state. "We need to support our community, our club and our fellow clubs", remember those emails?

Regarding ECNL, there is a far higher acceptance rate to get into ECNL based on per player capita throughout the rest of the country. Playing ECNL is not a big deal to the rest of the country, I would argue playing ECNL on a top team certainly is.

This region has the fewest clubs represented by ECNL based on per player capita. 2 clubs here in Ma. One of those clubs has 3 ECNL teams per age group (with no disrespect the quality is low most of those 2nd - 3rd teams), oh and the owner of that club is the secretary for ECNL...so tell me again how it's not about money and market proposition over player development.

I'm all for a free market and capitalism but let's call a spade a spade here.

It's much easier to sell a perception of a "pathway" than it is to sell player development. I mean if FC Stars Metrowest is still in business, I don't know what else you need to prove that point....they love to say "this player just graduated" from our program into ECNL..

Dude she played for you for a half season...it definitely was not your bicycle kick sessions that got her there...I mean that with all due respect.

There are plenty of players who play D1 and even professional for that matter who did not play in ECNL, DA or any other "pathway" league. Nevermind, the rest of the world who has zero clue what ECNL is...

If you believe a D1 program saw a top level player who they believe can impact their program is going to turn that kid away because they didn't play ECNL, they didn't play academy, they didn't play MLS Next...

1. You are completely misinformed parent who has been lied to.
2. You are a terrible coach or director and advocate for player development and player opportunity.
3. Have absolute zero experience in the college recruiting process either as a player, as a club coach or as a college coach.

^^^ now that is a mic drop!

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I try to hold back, but I simply must do it. I'll sing it from the mountaintops every day until everyone else just packs it up and plays town.

Just to correct you, no MA club has 3 ECNL teams per age group. Stars has 2 (Blue and White, which are treated as separate clubs by the league) and Scorpions has 1.

This comment is quite possibly the truest thing I have ever read on TS. If only parents could see through the clouds.

Likely they are including their ECNL-R teams (making it actually 4 teams throwing those four letters around).

Maybe. But it’s pretty clear that they are 2 different leagues. Where was the outrage when the exact same league was called NE NPL? People need to calm down.

ECNL is extremely successful at it's mission, getting players recruited to play in college. No other league can say that at least on the girls side. As to the rest of your drivel, there are good players scattered all over various leagues, sure. College coaches recruit players, not leagues or teams or clubs, but... and there is a huge but: it is much more difficult to get a D1 coach's attention and keep it when you aren't playing top competition, especially when you aren't attending ID camps with the NCAA blackout.

Here is reality for you folks who seem to think that it's all the same. It's not. With any number of seniors getting a 5th year of eligibility, recruiting classes for 2021/22/23 and maybe even 2024's are and will be smaller. There will be less spots and less money going around... here in the Northeast, you won't see more than a handful of players in the 22/23/24 class who don't play GAL or ECNL making a D1 roster as a recruited athlete. Walk-on? Maybe. D2. Possible. D3? Definitely. College coaches aren't risking the time and limited budget they have to recruit a player in the current environment who isn't playing against top competition... too much risk and too many stronger athletes that are already playing in those leagues.

I hate to say the landscape has changed and made it even more difficult for those not in the top leagues to score, but that is exactly what has happened. Anyone who is still telling parents league and level doesn't matter at this point is lying or selling you something, as reality on the ground is vastly different and a simple conversation with some D1 coaches says it all.