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Should a club that charges thousands of dollars a year to kids for the privilege of playing get solidarity payments? No in my opinion.
Should academies that provide free soccer be compensated for player development? Yes
On the men’s side, creating an open league system with promotion/relegation and using solidarity and transfer payments to incentivize player development would result in more & better players being developed.
I’m not sure it it is feasible on the women’s side, but I also think that MLS teams should have free to play girls academies.
MLS and therefore US Soccer won’t ever allow this to happen, they care far more for the revenue generated by casual fans than servicing the game of soccer. -
Not sure this is a USSoccer problem. Seems it a US Club Soccer problem (i.e. the never-ending search for profit).
The demise of the game, to me, is attributed to the advent of US Club Soccer, and the leagues under their umbrella. It's taken the control away from the player and put in with the Club...and their own selfish needs.Comment
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Not really, and i only say that because all youth sports have gone to this profit driven model, not just soccer. It is simply the way things work here that anything, literally ANYTHING, that can be commercialized will be. That includes sports, chess clubs, dance, etc. Hockey, basketball, lacrosse, baseball...all are basically operating under the same model now. Only football hasnt, because school ball remains the main avenue for playing.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
That said, I would be fine with solidarity payments for pay clubs who have developed world class players ONLY IF the parents who paid club fees are given a cut of that back. A "for profit" club should not be able to double dip by charging the parents and then also being paid by a buying club.Comment
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I'm not against a profit-driven system, but my point is you can't blame USSoccer. If there is blame, blame US Club Soccer and the leagues they represent.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Typically, competition drives costs down but since they have become an entity, it's done the opposite.Comment
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Lets see now that they have real competition though from USYS/EDP. Thats been almost two years and the issue i think is that the clubs got a taste of what they could charge and theyre never going to willingly back off of those prices. Seems we've made our cake and now must lie in it.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Seeing has how we’ve developed a grand total of one world class player in Pulisic..Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Obviously, need to take the determination of "world class" a bit more broadly.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
However, Tyler Adams, Tyler Boyd, Cameron Carter-Vickers, Timothy Chandler, Ian Harkes, Ulysses Llanez, Maurice Malone, Weston McKennie, Matt Miazga, Own Otasowie, Tim Ream, Giovanni Reyna, Chris Richards, Antonee Robinson, Josh Sargent, Kyle Scott, Theoson Siebatchu, Zack Steffan, Nick Taitague, Indiana Vassilev, Timothy Weah, DeAndre Yedlin, etc. all are rostered on European first division teams.
Most, if not all, had some experience actually playing stateside.Comment
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I dont see how a club which charges parents for their kids to train and play would be entitled to any compensation if such player ends up turning pro. The U.S. is not an academy system similar to the likes of Dortmand, Man City, Benefica, Chelsea, etc. There are also likely child labor laws which would prevent any such payments in the U.S.Comment
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Not sure about the child labor laws (meaning, I'm not the expert) - but if clubs were to be compensated I'd like to think those revenues would be pushed back to support the tuitions for the players. Sure, maybe it's a fairy tale...but one can dream...Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Not in pay to play systemComment
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Our pay-to-play system sucks. The pro clubs need to invest in and reward clubs for developing players absolutely. That is my understanding of the European academy system. US Soccer is a crap organization though that is in bed with pay-to-play.Comment
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There are also numerous women on club teams across the globe.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Our system does suck. However, if there was a multi million payoff for developing a true world class player, it would immediately change the system and incentivize teams to produce quality players. It would also make clubs take an interest in lower income communities who may have potential stars. Right now those kids are not seen as revenue sources, a development fee could change that.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Before the response comes - yes the double dip issue would have to be worked out.Comment
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Very good point. Maybe "scholarships" would be more forthcoming if there was some benefit on the back end...Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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