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    How long before GPS folds?

    How can they survive this?

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    How can they survive this?
    I’m predicting Monday. Everyone leaving today was the last straw. I bet DC has to tell the few remaining staff on Monday and he and JH will have to stick around for a few months to unwind things.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I’m predicting Monday. Everyone leaving today was the last straw. I bet DC has to tell the few remaining staff on Monday and he and JH will have to stick around for a few months to unwind things.
      I wouldn’t be surprised if they do it tomorrow.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I wouldn’t be surprised if they do it tomorrow.
        #obsessed.

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          #5
          How is it possible that any parent who is at least slightly informed will make a deposit for next season?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            How is it possible that any parent who is at least slightly informed will make a deposit for next season?
            #obsessed.

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              #7
              I thought they did fold? I heard Fortis is leaving GPS too.

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                #8
                No GPS affiliation here but to think that GPS is alone in this is naive. Every club in Massachusetts has a future that is questionable. The entire system is broken. Clubs are all facing financial challenges. Many of the same people who ruined GPS and committed unethical and allegedly illegal acts are now getting in bed with another giant mega-club (Surf) and will run the same cycle again.

                SSS, NEFC, Stars, Steel, Seacoast, Liverpool, Valeo, etc all have to have varying levels of similar challenges. Somehow, we have to find a way to help the kids get thru this in a way that allows them to play soccer. Celebrating the destruction of clubs and of the system is a sad way to put the kids first.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  No GPS affiliation here but to think that GPS is alone in this is naive. Every club in Massachusetts has a future that is questionable. The entire system is broken. Clubs are all facing financial challenges. Many of the same people who ruined GPS and committed unethical and allegedly illegal acts are now getting in bed with another giant mega-club (Surf) and will run the same cycle again.

                  SSS, NEFC, Stars, Steel, Seacoast, Liverpool, Valeo, etc all have to have varying levels of similar challenges. Somehow, we have to find a way to help the kids get thru this in a way that allows them to play soccer. Celebrating the destruction of clubs and of the system is a sad way to put the kids first.
                  GPS parent here. So happy to see the whole system crumble. Everything is wrong about youth soccer on every level. I always tell my kids about how back in the day (I'm dating myself here) BAYS fielded one team per town and it was truly the best kids in town at each age group. Then kids who did it recreationally simply played in house. In that way travel soccer of back in the day was enough for kids that were better than in house. Without significant travel or investment. Nowadays most towns have 4-5 teams traveling in every age group. In house is the bottom of the barrel. And clubs are selling us on the idea that little Johnny and Mary won't make D1 teams or go pro if we don't pay them thousands of dollars to make our kids superstars. Its all a big scam. There is only ever going to be a handful of kids that are true stars. And they honestly shouldn't be in this system at all. They need special advanced opportunities. But so long as we as parents continue to think our two left footed kids that can maybe do a step over have some sort of chance, we will never learn. Maybe this sis the greatest thing that ever happened to us. I say they build up in house leagues. Cut town travel teams down to only an A & B team. Similar to how lots of teams do basketball. And club be a free program run through the MLS and USL for only those few select players that truly have talent at each age group.

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                    #10
                    Travel A and B teams only! Agreed. If you have a C player let them work on small sides in house games.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      GPS parent here. So happy to see the whole system crumble. Everything is wrong about youth soccer on every level. I always tell my kids about how back in the day (I'm dating myself here) BAYS fielded one team per town and it was truly the best kids in town at each age group. Then kids who did it recreationally simply played in house. In that way travel soccer of back in the day was enough for kids that were better than in house. Without significant travel or investment. Nowadays most towns have 4-5 teams traveling in every age group. In house is the bottom of the barrel. And clubs are selling us on the idea that little Johnny and Mary won't make D1 teams or go pro if we don't pay them thousands of dollars to make our kids superstars. Its all a big scam. There is only ever going to be a handful of kids that are true stars. And they honestly shouldn't be in this system at all. They need special advanced opportunities. But so long as we as parents continue to think our two left footed kids that can maybe do a step over have some sort of chance, we will never learn. Maybe this sis the greatest thing that ever happened to us. I say they build up in house leagues. Cut town travel teams down to only an A & B team. Similar to how lots of teams do basketball. And club be a free program run through the MLS and USL for only those few select players that truly have talent at each age group.
                      All makes total sense except for one problem. I grew up playing Bays in Wellesley and was one of the top players in the state on the top team in the state. Who coached us? My dad who doesn’t know a thing about the game. If 99% of the kids are playing town soccer and 1% are playing for MLS and USL academies, does that mean that 99% are being coached by people like my dad? If so, US soccer will go back to the days of never qualifying for the World Cup and the level in the MLS will go back to NASL level in the 70s and 80s. Guys like me will be at the top of the pyramid, and that would be terrible (because even though I was a stud player, I was terrible).

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        GPS parent here. So happy to see the whole system crumble. Everything is wrong about youth soccer on every level. I always tell my kids about how back in the day (I'm dating myself here) BAYS fielded one team per town and it was truly the best kids in town at each age group. Then kids who did it recreationally simply played in house. In that way travel soccer of back in the day was enough for kids that were better than in house. Without significant travel or investment. Nowadays most towns have 4-5 teams traveling in every age group. In house is the bottom of the barrel. And clubs are selling us on the idea that little Johnny and Mary won't make D1 teams or go pro if we don't pay them thousands of dollars to make our kids superstars. Its all a big scam. There is only ever going to be a handful of kids that are true stars. And they honestly shouldn't be in this system at all. They need special advanced opportunities. But so long as we as parents continue to think our two left footed kids that can maybe do a step over have some sort of chance, we will never learn. Maybe this sis the greatest thing that ever happened to us. I say they build up in house leagues. Cut town travel teams down to only an A & B team. Similar to how lots of teams do basketball. And club be a free program run through the MLS and USL for only those few select players that truly have talent at each age group.
                        Solid thoughts, but let me play devil's advocate...

                        1. How do you define talent?
                        2. What about late developing kids? Will they be given the opportunity to stay in the competitive "system" while slowly developing, or will they be demoted to the "in house" teams?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          GPS parent here. So happy to see the whole system crumble. Everything is wrong about youth soccer on every level. I always tell my kids about how back in the day (I'm dating myself here) BAYS fielded one team per town and it was truly the best kids in town at each age group. Then kids who did it recreationally simply played in house. In that way travel soccer of back in the day was enough for kids that were better than in house. Without significant travel or investment. Nowadays most towns have 4-5 teams traveling in every age group. In house is the bottom of the barrel. And clubs are selling us on the idea that little Johnny and Mary won't make D1 teams or go pro if we don't pay them thousands of dollars to make our kids superstars. Its all a big scam. There is only ever going to be a handful of kids that are true stars. And they honestly shouldn't be in this system at all. They need special advanced opportunities. But so long as we as parents continue to think our two left footed kids that can maybe do a step over have some sort of chance, we will never learn. Maybe this sis the greatest thing that ever happened to us. I say they build up in house leagues. Cut town travel teams down to only an A & B team. Similar to how lots of teams do basketball. And club be a free program run through the MLS and USL for only those few select players that truly have talent at each age group.
                          Do you have the guy down the street volunteer to teach your kid World History? There is so much more to youth sports than teaching the sports. It's the other things the kids need to be exposed to and learn as well. You need professional coaches to do that. More than just the "talented" kids deserve that experience too.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Do you have the guy down the street volunteer to teach your kid World History? There is so much more to youth sports than teaching the sports. It's the other things the kids need to be exposed to and learn as well. You need professional coaches to do that. More than just the "talented" kids deserve that experience too.
                            I'm not the original person who posted that comment, but I'm intrigued by your answer... Can you elaborate on what you exactly mean by "other things the kids need to be exposed to"?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Solid thoughts, but let me play devil's advocate...

                              2. What about late developing kids? Will they be given the opportunity to stay in the competitive "system" while slowly developing, or will they be demoted to the "in house" teams?
                              ^^^THIS^^^

                              So many girls and boys start puberty at 10-11 and look huge through middle school and early high school. And some kids start developing only at 15.

                              Granted, the club system isn't that much better as the top club teams is packed by early blooomers, but at least the late bloomers have a fighting chance to pick up enough technical and tactical skills to have a chance in high school.

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