So question for you talking soccer veterans with either collegiate playing or coaching experience or kids who survived the New England club morass. What exactly is the difference between D3 and D2 soccer?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo question for you talking soccer veterans with either collegiate playing or coaching experience or kids who survived the New England club morass. What exactly is the difference between D3 and D2 soccer?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo question for you talking soccer veterans with either collegiate playing or coaching experience or kids who survived the New England club morass. What exactly is the difference between D3 and D2 soccer?
D2 is a very narrow band. There are only a few conferences in the area. D2 examples in CT would be SCSU and New Haven. There are a few better options in Mass like Bentley and Stonehill. After the quality of the academics drops quite a bit. D2 CAN offer athletic scholarships. In most instance their funding is limited but you can get pure athletic money. For example, a school like Stonehill could offer $7500 in soccer money and then $15,000 in merit. That's a decent discount.
There are way more D3 and as a whole they tend to be better schools. Wesleyan, Conn College and Trinity are examples here locally. No athletic money ever in D3 and in the case of these schools no merit either. Just need based financial aid.
D3 tends to have better soccer. The best D3 schools would handle the best D2 schools.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostQuality of the schools and athletic money.
D2 is a very narrow band. There are only a few conferences in the area. D2 examples in CT would be SCSU and New Haven. There are a few better options in Mass like Bentley and Stonehill. After the quality of the academics drops quite a bit. D2 CAN offer athletic scholarships. In most instance their funding is limited but you can get pure athletic money. For example, a school like Stonehill could offer $7500 in soccer money and then $15,000 in merit. That's a decent discount.
There are way more D3 and as a whole they tend to be better schools. Wesleyan, Conn College and Trinity are examples here locally. No athletic money ever in D3 and in the case of these schools no merit either. Just need based financial aid.
D3 tends to have better soccer. The best D3 schools would handle the best D2 schools.
D3 soccer would be the equivalent of club soccer at a D1 school. Academics is a different animal altogether. On those pieces, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgree on most things you said, except for the last statement. D3 men’s soccer is terrible and would get slaughtered by good D2 programs. This is the men’s side we are talking about. D2 has less stringent rules, a ton of internationals and sometimes older players. In fact, in SCSU’s heyday with RR, they would have beaten most D1 programs. Still true in large part today that D2 men’s programs are much better than D3 and in many instances better than D1’s.
D3 soccer would be the equivalent of club soccer at a D1 school. Academics is a different animal altogether. On those pieces, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgree on most things you said, except for the last statement. D3 men’s soccer is terrible and would get slaughtered by good D2 programs. This is the men’s side we are talking about. D2 has less stringent rules, a ton of internationals and sometimes older players. In fact, in SCSU’s heyday with RR, they would have beaten most D1 programs. Still true in large part today that D2 men’s programs are much better than D3 and in many instances better than D1’s.
D3 soccer would be the equivalent of club soccer at a D1 school. Academics is a different animal altogether. On those pieces, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgree. Best D2 schools could compete with SOME D1 schools. Some D3s can also - low D1.
there also are alot of foreign players on D2 rosters. It's barely a thing in D3. Why? The lower academics and availability of athletic money in D2
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo question for you talking soccer veterans with either collegiate playing or coaching experience or kids who survived the New England club morass. What exactly is the difference between D3 and D2 soccer?
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OP - thanks for the education! Very helpful. A follow up question - is what folks described as the difference between D2 v D3 from a CT or New England regional basis, or pretty much generally applicable across all regions of the U.S.?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOP - thanks for the education! Very helpful. A follow up question - is what folks described as the difference between D2 v D3 from a CT or New England regional basis, or pretty much generally applicable across all regions of the U.S.?
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For what it is worth, my kid has multiple D3 offers - ranging from CCC and GNAC and everything in between at some quality and suspect schools to courting D2 offers as some NE10 quality and not so quality schools. Academics has definitely been the driving force, followed by merit aid (don't fool yourself - there ain't no soccer money in D3 and little in New England for D2), followed by soccer. The tertiary soccer issue has been from my kid's perspective to be a starter in D3 as a freshman, to scant minutes as a freshman (aka bench-relief) at D2.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFor what it is worth, my kid has multiple D3 offers - ranging from CCC and GNAC and everything in between at some quality and suspect schools to courting D2 offers as some NE10 quality and not so quality schools. Academics has definitely been the driving force, followed by merit aid (don't fool yourself - there ain't no soccer money in D3 and little in New England for D2), followed by soccer. The tertiary soccer issue has been from my kid's perspective to be a starter in D3 as a freshman, to scant minutes as a freshman (aka bench-relief) at D2.
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Ahh, CCC, GNAC, NE10 who cares. Its pay to play in the States, and unless your in the half of a percent that makes it to D1 or less so to U.S. pro soccer (if you can even call it professional - sorry Premier League and others), so be it. But if college soccer is a pathway to education or opportunity that wasn't there before, that's goodness. That said have to give it to the earlier poster - academics first is the way to go, one injury or coaching change and you could be all done in any event...
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