No but I want a president to make sure there is no corruption in countries seeking our monetary aid. For example, if I know that a former vice president was able to get a prosecutor fired who was investigating corruption at a company that the vice presidents drug addict son was receiving a great deal money from for doing nothing, then I would absolutely make sure I found out how that was allowed to happen so that we know it will not happen again.


How about a reply to this simple question:

How do you think Hunter Biden came to be a board member of
Ukrainian gas company, Burisma Holdings?

I'm not the OP, but a few of your details are incorrect.

Shokin wasn't ousted because he was investigating corruption at Burisma Holdings Ltd. He was ousted because he was refusing to investigate corruption within the Ukrainian government.

Biden was only one person in an international effort to advocate for Shokin's removal from his position. Civic organizations within Ukraine were already screaming for his resignation or firing, but it took a coalition of European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations to get the Ukrainian parliament to finally remove him.

There was an investigation into the company regarding actions they took in a time period that preceded Hunter's role on their board. The investigation took place while he was on the board, but his presence did not prevent the investigation from happening.

Hunter Biden was probably invited to join the board because he had a powerful name. I would not have a problem with that if he'd joined the board after his dad became a private citizen in January 2017. I do have a problem with it happening while his dad was in office.

Because of the facts above regarding Shokin's removal and that he did not prevent the investigation into Burisma's previous actions as a board member, I don't think there is evidence of wrong-doing here by the Bidens. It is stupid nepotism however, and they shouldn't have put themselves into that position in the first place. Because of precisely this. Perception is reality and they had to know how this would be perceived. They shouldn't have done it.

You've obviously bought the media spin but Shokin says otherwise and common sense dictates that his version is probably the correct version given that Hunter Biden had zero qualifications to be sitting on this board and also was a drug addict. Meaning that his job prospects were probably very limited and it would require some strong arm tactics from someone like a dad vice president to get Hunter such a position.

Only if you think the media spin is coordinated across four countries in addition to the US. When Shokin was facing the pressure, it was very common knowledge in the EU why and by whom. I was in the UK and Sweden at the time and it was in the news there.

How do you come to the conclusion that a lawyer is unqualified to sit on the board of a corporation? Two members of my BoD are lawyers and sit on the board for precisely that reason. They provide legal advice and guidance when necessary.

A lot of people struggle with alcohol and drug problems. You'll have to disqualify over 21 million Americans from serving on a board with your standards.

With the Biden name, it wouldn't require strong arm tactics from daddy for Hunter to get a position on a corporation's board of directors. Yeah, he'd probably get the position because of the family association, but Joe wouldn't have had to do anything more than make a phone call telling them Hunter's available if he even had to do that.

Again, I don't think he should have taken positions on the board of foreign corporations while his father was in office. I agree that is a conflict of interest exposure and ill-advised. Quite stupid and I agree with you they shouldn't have done it. But I stand by my assertion that your underlying "facts" are incorrect.

OP here, just want to note the the first response was NO, before he tried to flip the scrip with whataboutism and false equivalence.

Ill-advised nepotism is NOT on the same scale as abusing presidential power for personal benefit.

That did not go unnoticed.

He obviously capitalized on the family name, but at least had the qualifications for the job and did nothing to jeopardize the best interests of the United States.

Your turn: How do you think Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump got their west wing jobs, and how did they get security clearances despite the objections of career Intelligence Community officials who considered Kushner a national security risk?

I love reading posts from desperate Democrats. Trump did nothing to put this nation at risk and there was no quid pro quo as you will learn shortly. Can't wait for all this to come back and bite the Democrats in the ass. It's going to be fun to watch.

Except for the public admissions by:

The White House Chief of Staff (Republican)
a congressman (Republican)
two US ambassadors (appointed by a Republican)
and a Lt. Col. in the US Army (decorated war veteran),

Yeah, there must have been no quid pro quo or risk to our national security.

Please tell me you will tune in to the public impeachment hearings in a week and a half and watch them for yourself rather than hear about them second hand from a hack media site.

You know they aren't going to answer this, right?

In case anyone is interested in the truth that the Trumpers won't admit:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...rity-clearance

Clearance was granted despite objections from career intelligence community officials, the top white house lawyer, and chief of staff John Kelly. One can only imagine what Jared did with some of America's most closely-held secrets.

^ this. Even Hunter has admitted it was a bad idea, even more so in hindsight, it wasn't illegal and still isn't illegal, not here or in Ukraine. He has stepped down from the Chinese board he was on (wasn't on the Ukrainian one any longer) and said he wouldn't do any foreign business if his dad was elected.

Nepotism exists in varying degrees everywhere. Of course we know about the Trump kids and Jared (completely unqualified for his job), Bill Barr has a kid in the WH and another in Treasury, Giuliani has a kid at the WH, loads of congressional members help each other out hiring each other's kids as summer interns. As voters we can demand better. If you don't like it, contact your representatives, tell them to change the laws. But since legal changes are unlikely to happen any time soon, vote for candidates that vow not to hire family.

But what Trump did was solely to find something on the Bidens. His "corruption investigation" began only began AFTER Biden announced he was running. Why no investigation during the prior 2+ years? Why no investigation of HRC (who he still yammers on about)? Because she's not running. Then we have the multiple witnesses all saying the same thing - except Sundland who seems like he's "reviewing" his testimony now that another witness has called him out. None of it looks good. Trump keeps claiming innocence, yet won't produce requested documents or allow witnesses to testify. He's not doing himself any favors by acting guility

I feel bad for anyone that lives in a city run by liberals. Damn shame. https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/29/us/lo...ths/index.html

And using WhatsApp for sensitive conversations. You can't fix stupid!