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    How does a DA player get to legally play high school soccer?

    #2
    High school tryouts are goin on. Any DA players bucking the U.S. Soccer DA rules?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      How does a DA player get to legally play high school soccer?

      He does not. If he is caught his club could be disciplined or kicked out of DA. We had one try and the minute the coach found out, he cut the kid. It was the DA team captain and leading goal scorer but it didn't matter.

      If he is doing it, report him to the club and he will be gone. More playing time for your kid.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        He does not. If he is caught his club could be disciplined or kicked out of DA. We had one try and the minute the coach found out, he cut the kid. It was the DA team captain and leading goal scorer but it didn't matter.

        If he is doing it, report him to the club and he will be gone. More playing time for your kid.
        Same with girls?

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          #5
          Some try to be discovery players and then resign from DA to play high school and then go back to active DA after the high school season is completely over.

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            #6
            DA relaxed the rules to keep kids from passing on DA due to the rule. One more thing in the dumb competition between DA and ECNL.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              DA relaxed the rules to keep kids from passing on DA due to the rule. One more thing in the dumb competition between DA and ECNL.
              Post the rule pleazz.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                He does not. If he is caught his club could be disciplined or kicked out of DA. We had one try and the minute the coach found out, he cut the kid. It was the DA team captain and leading goal scorer but it didn't matter.

                If he is doing it, report him to the club and he will be gone. More playing time for your kid.
                Yes they can, only at private schools though. Player has to show proof the school is providing any amount of aid to the student and they can be on DA and play high school season.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Yes they can, only at private schools though. Player has to show proof the school is providing any amount of aid to the student and they can be on DA and play high school season.
                  Player can not be rostered during high school season after season is over Da will add them back on roster only private school soccer

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                    #10
                    Only ways:

                    - Get a legal waiver for private school players. Must be able to approve playing for your private school is either a financial necessity or some kind of school requirement. Must be approved by your club and USSF. Must be filed for in August before the season starts

                    - Not be put on an official DA roster until you're done with your HS program. How? Well, in parts of the US that have HS in the fall it's easy. Just go back to club in November. Elsewhere you could be listed as a part time DA player on your club's B team, then magically get "pulled up" onto DA when HS is over. Both are legal loopholes - players can get added any time during the year up until early April - but would require your club giving you the wink wink in private.

                    - With either scenario above you cannot play HS and DA at the same time. Players have been suspended when they get busted. A girls team in NY just got hammered because the club told girls they could do both and had them on DA rosters. Multiple players are suspended and the teams have to forfeit games. When it's happened elsewhere it's pretty limited, but this club it was a systemic policy.

                    USDA rules http://www.ussoccerda.com/doclib/201...EGULATIONS.pdf

                    WAiver form http://www.ussoccerda.com/doclib/201...y%20Waiver.pdf

                    All disciplinary actions http://www.ussoccerda.com/doclib/201...ary%20Code.pdf

                    But riddle me this - WHY would you want your kid doing both? I agree the no HS rule is stupid overall, but there's very good reasons not to be doing both at the same time - burnout, exhaustion and much greater overuse injury risk. the HS schedule is brutal, then you want to do club on top of that? Granted, in FL the winter HS season is generally quiet for DA clubs, but it's still going to be soccer 7 days a week plus the inevitable conflicts (try telling your club or HS coaches you have to miss one for the other). Do one or the other and if you pick HS do it legally

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      DA relaxed the rules to keep kids from passing on DA due to the rule. One more thing in the dumb competition between DA and ECNL.
                      No they haven't. USSF hates HS soccer but will essentially allow it only two ways - you either get the legal private school waiver or use the legal loophole to added to a team once you've finished HS. Do both at the same time you risk being suspended and your team forfeiting games.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        No they haven't. USSF hates HS soccer but will essentially allow it only two ways - you either get the legal private school waiver or use the legal loophole to added to a team once you've finished HS. Do both at the same time you risk being suspended and your team forfeiting games.
                        Post the written rules from US Soccer.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Post the written rules from US Soccer.
                          Look on page 1, someone already posted the links. Though, there is nothing written that specifically outlines what will happen to a player or team if someone is caught. Seems to be a case by case review process.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Only ways:

                            - Get a legal waiver for private school players. Must be able to approve playing for your private school is either a financial necessity or some kind of school requirement. Must be approved by your club and USSF. Must be filed for in August before the season starts

                            - Not be put on an official DA roster until you're done with your HS program. How? Well, in parts of the US that have HS in the fall it's easy. Just go back to club in November. Elsewhere you could be listed as a part time DA player on your club's B team, then magically get "pulled up" onto DA when HS is over. Both are legal loopholes - players can get added any time during the year up until early April - but would require your club giving you the wink wink in private.

                            - With either scenario above you cannot play HS and DA at the same time. Players have been suspended when they get busted. A girls team in NY just got hammered because the club told girls they could do both and had them on DA rosters. Multiple players are suspended and the teams have to forfeit games. When it's happened elsewhere it's pretty limited, but this club it was a systemic policy.

                            USDA rules http://www.ussoccerda.com/doclib/201...EGULATIONS.pdf

                            WAiver form http://www.ussoccerda.com/doclib/201...y%20Waiver.pdf

                            All disciplinary actions http://www.ussoccerda.com/doclib/201...ary%20Code.pdf

                            But riddle me this - WHY would you want your kid doing both? I agree the no HS rule is stupid overall, but there's very good reasons not to be doing both at the same time - burnout, exhaustion and much greater overuse injury risk. the HS schedule is brutal, then you want to do club on top of that? Granted, in FL the winter HS season is generally quiet for DA clubs, but it's still going to be soccer 7 days a week plus the inevitable conflicts (try telling your club or HS coaches you have to miss one for the other). Do one or the other and if you pick HS do it legally
                            Someone making sense.

                            I love it.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Look on page 1, someone already posted the links. Though, there is nothing written that specifically outlines what will happen to a player or team if someone is caught. Seems to be a case by case review process.
                              From page 6 of the Disciplinary Code

                              I. Ineligibility
                              If a player takes part in an official game despite being ineligible, the team may be sanctioned by
                              forfeiting the game. Additional sanctions may be imposed against the player or the club.

                              NY board said players have been suspended for 2 games each with suspensions noted on game records. Not clear how many games will be forfeited, but at least two teams have had one game forfeits each. Supposedly it was so widespread they had to stagger player suspensions.

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