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    NYCFC leaving DA?

    Has anyone heard anything about NYCFC leaving the DA?

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Has anyone heard anything about NYCFC leaving the DA?
    I think they are. Check the NY blogs and their website. That is what sucks about this soccer stuff. Blogs disseminate information (and sometimes not correctly). The leagues should ALL have to publish all their yearly forecasts every January. This way parents and kids can plan accordingly for what is going on and where they want to be instead of having to dig it up. Such a horrible way of communication for the sport. The players/parents/participants (sometimes the coaches don't know either) deserve better.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I think they are. Check the NY blogs and their website. That is what sucks about this soccer stuff. Blogs disseminate information (and sometimes not correctly). The leagues should ALL have to publish all their yearly forecasts every January. This way parents and kids can plan accordingly for what is going on and where they want to be instead of having to dig it up. Such a horrible way of communication for the sport. The players/parents/participants (sometimes the coaches don't know either) deserve better.
      Yes, NYCFC is leaving the GDA and joining with World Class FC to put the best of the best in ECNL. Rumor has it clubs are dropping like flies in the GDA

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        #4
        Scan through the message boards of all the regions, in some places, it is not a rumor. Many MLS teams are taking their GDA teams out of DA and putting the teams in ECNL.

        Why? From what I am hearing, the main points of contention are:
        1) travel costs are ridiculous.
        2) you travel past so many very good clubs, for no reason, and then are so outmatched or overwhelming.

        The best board to look at is in California.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Scan through the message boards of all the regions, in some places, it is not a rumor. Many MLS teams are taking their GDA teams out of DA and putting the teams in ECNL.

          Why? From what I am hearing, the main points of contention are:
          1) travel costs are ridiculous.
          2) you travel past so many very good clubs, for no reason, and then are so outmatched or overwhelming.

          The best board to look at is in California.
          Is ECNL that much better regarding travel costs and travel in general?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Is ECNL that much better regarding travel costs and travel in general?
            Around here it's about the same. In other parts it varies more. A few GDA clubs subsidize travel costs but not many. So with GDA you have to give up high school, the costs and travel are similar, the quality isn't better (especially in the NE), the substitution rules make it harder to give more playing time. If you want GDA or it's your best local club option then great, do it. But it may not be your best option and may not be around much longer. ECNL is well entrenched and is not going anywhere.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Around here it's about the same. In other parts it varies more. A few GDA clubs subsidize travel costs but not many. So with GDA you have to give up high school, the costs and travel are similar, the quality isn't better (especially in the NE), the substitution rules make it harder to give more playing time. If you want GDA or it's your best local club option then great, do it. But it may not be your best option and may not be around much longer. ECNL is well entrenched and is not going anywhere.
              Forgot: DA has a 4:1 practice to game ratio while most ECNL clubs are 3:2. With DA you may travel a very long way for ONE game, and may not even play at all or only a few minutes. With ECNL most weekends are piggy backed with another local team. So one weekend you are way but play two games; the next weekend you're home, two games.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Forgot: DA has a 4:1 practice to game ratio while most ECNL clubs are 3:2. With DA you may travel a very long way for ONE game, and may not even play at all or only a few minutes. With ECNL most weekends are piggy backed with another local team. So one weekend you are way but play two games; the next weekend you're home, two games.
                Two games in a weekend isn't a selling point.

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                  #9
                  Wow...even on this chat, not everyone is on the same page. Ok, before you take your child into DA or GDA, ask around to older kids in college and especially parents. Think about how much poorer you can be.

                  Here's a link on GDA 101, to know what you are getting into:
                  https://lagalaxysd.com/docs/da_101.pdf

                  Roster 18 players, no re-entry, just beautiful how we treat kids like commodities. These rules apply to the youngest ages: U14

                  This is just the basics. The doc is a 101, imagine what topics would covered on DA in a 400-level course.

                  Now, I want to hear what others think...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Two games in a weekend isn't a selling point.

                    Background: Recovery duration may be too short during the congested fixtures of professional soccer players with regard to maintaining physical performance and a low injury rate.

                    Purpose: To analyze the effects of 2 matches per week on physical performance and injury rate in male elite soccer players.

                    Study Design: Cohort study; Level of evidence, 3.

                    Methods: Match results, match-related physical performance, and injuries were monitored during 2 seasons (2007–2008 and 2008–2009) for 32 professional soccer players in a top-level team participating in the UEFA (Union of European Football Associations) Champions League. Total distance, high-intensity distance, sprint distance, and number of sprints were collected for 52 home matches. Injuries and player participation in matches and training were recorded throughout the full season.

                    Results: Physical performance, as characterized by total distance covered, high-intensity distance, sprint distance, and number of sprints, was not significantly affected by the number of matches per week (1 versus 2), whereas the injury rate was significantly higher when players played 2 matches per week versus 1 match per week (25.6 versus 4.1 injuries per 1000 hours of exposure; P < .001).

                    Conclusion: The recovery time between 2 matches, 72 to 96 hours, appears sufficient to maintain the level of physical performance tested but is not long enough to maintain a low injury rate. The present data highlight the need for player rotation and for improved recovery strategies to maintain a low injury rate among athletes during periods with congested match fixtures.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Background: Recovery duration may be too short during the congested fixtures of professional soccer players with regard to maintaining physical performance and a low injury rate.

                      Purpose: To analyze the effects of 2 matches per week on physical performance and injury rate in male elite soccer players.

                      Study Design: Cohort study; Level of evidence, 3.

                      Methods: Match results, match-related physical performance, and injuries were monitored during 2 seasons (2007–2008 and 2008–2009) for 32 professional soccer players in a top-level team participating in the UEFA (Union of European Football Associations) Champions League. Total distance, high-intensity distance, sprint distance, and number of sprints were collected for 52 home matches. Injuries and player participation in matches and training were recorded throughout the full season.

                      Results: Physical performance, as characterized by total distance covered, high-intensity distance, sprint distance, and number of sprints, was not significantly affected by the number of matches per week (1 versus 2), whereas the injury rate was significantly higher when players played 2 matches per week versus 1 match per week (25.6 versus 4.1 injuries per 1000 hours of exposure; P < .001).

                      Conclusion: The recovery time between 2 matches, 72 to 96 hours, appears sufficient to maintain the level of physical performance tested but is not long enough to maintain a low injury rate. The present data highlight the need for player rotation and for improved recovery strategies to maintain a low injury rate among athletes during periods with congested match fixtures.
                      Get a study on teenage female athletes, and I will respect your opinion more. Girls recover much quicker. Ask your wife

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Background: Recovery duration may be too short during the congested fixtures of professional soccer players with regard to maintaining physical performance and a low injury rate.

                        Purpose: To analyze the effects of 2 matches per week on physical performance and injury rate in male elite soccer players.

                        Study Design: Cohort study; Level of evidence, 3.

                        Methods: Match results, match-related physical performance, and injuries were monitored during 2 seasons (2007–2008 and 2008–2009) for 32 professional soccer players in a top-level team participating in the UEFA (Union of European Football Associations) Champions League. Total distance, high-intensity distance, sprint distance, and number of sprints were collected for 52 home matches. Injuries and player participation in matches and training were recorded throughout the full season.

                        Results: Physical performance, as characterized by total distance covered, high-intensity distance, sprint distance, and number of sprints, was not significantly affected by the number of matches per week (1 versus 2), whereas the injury rate was significantly higher when players played 2 matches per week versus 1 match per week (25.6 versus 4.1 injuries per 1000 hours of exposure; P < .001).

                        Conclusion: The recovery time between 2 matches, 72 to 96 hours, appears sufficient to maintain the level of physical performance tested but is not long enough to maintain a low injury rate. The present data highlight the need for player rotation and for improved recovery strategies to maintain a low injury rate among athletes during periods with congested match fixtures.

                        ECNL intensity comes closer to college than one game/week. There's very little downtime with college games + travel.

                        Regardless, the bigger issues people have with GDA around here is the quality is not good and will only get worse with NYCFC pulling out. It's expensive (no free to play like BDA has), tons of travel and girls are less likely to want to give up HS. For them the goal really is college. With the boys if you want top D1 you almost do need BDA (or a foreign passport). That isn't the case with GDA. ECNL can still get you there and not everyone wants top D1 anyway. So play HS if you want. Life is short. Do what makes you happy.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          ECNL intensity comes closer to college than one game/week. There's very little downtime with college games + travel.

                          Regardless, the bigger issues people have with GDA around here is the quality is not good and will only get worse with NYCFC pulling out. It's expensive (no free to play like BDA has), tons of travel and girls are less likely to want to give up HS. For them the goal really is college. With the boys if you want top D1 you almost do need BDA (or a foreign passport). That isn't the case with GDA. ECNL can still get you there and not everyone wants top D1 anyway. So play HS if you want. Life is short. Do what makes you happy.
                          Do colleges play back to back games?

                          "Intensity" What the heck does that mean? 3/2 is a bad model for developing players and bad for their health.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Wow...even on this chat, not everyone is on the same page. Ok, before you take your child into DA or GDA, ask around to older kids in college and especially parents. Think about how much poorer you can be.

                            Here's a link on GDA 101, to know what you are getting into:
                            https://lagalaxysd.com/docs/da_101.pdf

                            Roster 18 players, no re-entry, just beautiful how we treat kids like commodities. These rules apply to the youngest ages: U14

                            This is just the basics. The doc is a 101, imagine what topics would covered on DA in a 400-level course.

                            Now, I want to hear what others think...
                            Per typical US Soccer ... those details are merely nice suggestions. Even some boys DA programs do not practice 4x per week and many GDA clubs do not. Licensure for coaches (after 10 years on the boys side) are still not up to regulation at many DA clubs .... forget about the GDA clubs who were NPL (or less) 18 months ago. Roster sizes mean nothing either. Don't pay attention to the "regulations" they are merely ways US Soccer can badger lesser clubs .... most clubs, regardless of size, dont pay attention to them and you should not either.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Background: Recovery duration may be too short during the congested fixtures of professional soccer players with regard to maintaining physical performance and a low injury rate.

                              Purpose: To analyze the effects of 2 matches per week on physical performance and injury rate in male elite soccer players.

                              Study Design: Cohort study; Level of evidence, 3.

                              Methods: Match results, match-related physical performance, and injuries were monitored during 2 seasons (2007–2008 and 2008–2009) for 32 professional soccer players in a top-level team participating in the UEFA (Union of European Football Associations) Champions League. Total distance, high-intensity distance, sprint distance, and number of sprints were collected for 52 home matches. Injuries and player participation in matches and training were recorded throughout the full season.

                              Results: Physical performance, as characterized by total distance covered, high-intensity distance, sprint distance, and number of sprints, was not significantly affected by the number of matches per week (1 versus 2), whereas the injury rate was significantly higher when players played 2 matches per week versus 1 match per week (25.6 versus 4.1 injuries per 1000 hours of exposure; P < .001).

                              Conclusion: The recovery time between 2 matches, 72 to 96 hours, appears sufficient to maintain the level of physical performance tested but is not long enough to maintain a low injury rate. The present data highlight the need for player rotation and for improved recovery strategies to maintain a low injury rate among athletes during periods with congested match fixtures.
                              Sample size of 32? This study is invalid. One or two injuries, "by chance" would drastically affect the results. These pros also train 5, 6, and 7 days in some weeks (on the field, in pools, in weight rooms .... far more than the average premier player in the US). Sorry, you need to find a better study. Does it also quantify the effects of heavy scrimmaging for additional days which my kids club does often (whether they have a game on a weekend or not)? Sorry, the sample size has to be much larger than 32 players on a single team (since teams do not all practice/play in the same manner).

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