A license coach does not mean great coach they just put in the time and money their are plenty of great coaches that do not have an a license. It is all just about money
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostA license coach does not mean great coach they just put in the time and money their are plenty of great coaches that do not have an a license. It is all just about money
Read your statement and realize how dumb you sound. If that coach was so great why didn’t he put in the time to make it official. The moment a coach thinks they are too good to learn that’s the moment they became one of the bunch and a dumb human being.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostA medical degree doesn’t mean you are a great doctor. They JUST put in the time and money. There are plenty of great doctors who don’t have a degree. It’s all about the money.
Read your statement and realize how dumb you sound. If that coach was so great why didn’t he put in the time to make it official. The moment a coach thinks they are too good to learn that’s the moment they became one of the bunch and a dumb human being.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostA medical degree doesn’t mean you are a great doctor. They JUST put in the time and money. There are plenty of great doctors who don’t have a degree. It’s all about the money.
Read your statement and realize how dumb you sound. If that coach was so great why didn’t he put in the time to make it official. The moment a coach thinks they are too good to learn that’s the moment they became one of the bunch and a dumb human being.
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They hand these licenses out like candy. The real problem is US Soccer has these license courses given by a particular person that has some type of affiliation with a club that is instructing and evaluating coaches from the same club. This is a situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or decisions made in their official capacity. Club members handing out licenses to make one club look like they have qualified coaches. Instructor = DOC = $$$$$ How unethical is that??? Coaches should not be able to attain a coaching course where the instructor is from the same club.....
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostA license coach does not mean great coach they just put in the time and money their are plenty of great coaches that do not have an a license. It is all just about money
Just like saying professional players are good coaches. That's not always the case.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostA medical degree doesn’t mean you are a great doctor. They JUST put in the time and money. There are plenty of great doctors who don’t have a degree. It’s all about the money.
Read your statement and realize how dumb you sound. If that coach was so great why didn’t he put in the time to make it official. The moment a coach thinks they are too good to learn that’s the moment they became one of the bunch and a dumb human being.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostA license coach does not mean great coach they just put in the time and money their are plenty of great coaches that do not have an a license. It is all just about money
the point of this story is this - sometimes as parents we are our own worst enemies. sometimes we equate winning with good coaching. we think a good coach gets results, and this is wrong. unfortunately, a gang of parents, in many clubs, can get coaches fired.
i don't think licensing alone is the solution. the solution is more patience, less competition and more technical skill growth at the younger ages. this will produce better overall players. there is no point in playing 9 year olds 60 games a year scooting after a ball IF they first do not control the ball at a high level. we put competition first and ball control second; this is backwards.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThey hand these licenses out like candy. The real problem is US Soccer has these license courses given by a particular person that has some type of affiliation with a club that is instructing and evaluating coaches from the same club. This is a situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or decisions made in their official capacity. Club members handing out licenses to make one club look like they have qualified coaches. Instructor = DOC = $$$$$ How unethical is that??? Coaches should not be able to attain a coaching course where the instructor is from the same club.....
A basic youth license, which might be run by a club official, is more or less just going and taking the classes to get an understanding of organization. They are a helpful tool to new coaches or for people that aren’t making a living coaching. It is not something you really fail, you go to get an understanding of how-to help little kids have fun playing. The NSCAA (United Soccer Coaches) licenses are also very good for coaches that are just starting or for school coaches. But the basic USSF or State badges are helpful for many people.
The USSF is a different story. I know guys that failed the B or A, and they don't get the money back from their clubs. I know guys that didn't pass and got stuck with the bill since you only get reimbursed for passing, which makes sense. The license and travel involved is expensive, and it’s a time-consuming process.
Getting any coaching badge is a positive thing, not a bad thing.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postyears ago when my oldest was a u10, his club at time brought in a coach that just wanted 9 year olds to do technical drills all day long. Juggling, receiving, first touch, etc. did not care about winning. he lasted less than one month, losing every game 8-0 and the parents ran him out of the club. in retrospect, there was a lot of positives with his approach. the kids were not ready to really compete until they developed mastery of the ball.
the point of this story is this - sometimes as parents we are our own worst enemies. sometimes we equate winning with good coaching. we think a good coach gets results, and this is wrong. unfortunately, a gang of parents, in many clubs, can get coaches fired.
i don't think licensing alone is the solution. the solution is more patience, less competition and more technical skill growth at the younger ages. this will produce better overall players. there is no point in playing 9 year olds 60 games a year scooting after a ball IF they first do not control the ball at a high level. we put competition first and ball control second; this is backwards.
If as a parent you haven't a clue who is a good coach ask around - ask neighbors who have older players, ask the HS coach. Go watch some practices and games of a team you're interested in and watch the coach interact with the players. Ask questions of the parents on the team. Don't use Got Soccer as a guide.
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Obviously, licensure does not guarantee quality or lack there of. However, more education is never a bad thing. Committing time and training to improve your knowledge base is never a bad thing.
Education and courses don’t typically improve personality or interpersonal skills or the ability to understand individual player’s psyche. Dedication and organization can not be overlooked as well. These are important traits in a great coach.
I’d guess that the coaches you cite as being great coaches with little to no licensure have those important traits. They probably even have learned a lot of about the game on their own outside of courses.
As the players get older and competition more advanced, a broader rage of tactics and skills are required to train at a high level. Personality traits become less important (still important) than a deeper understanding of the game.
When Germany was failing internationally...they reinvested in training and educating the coaches all through the youth system. It paid off.
When Iceland wanted to see improvement with their national team, they invested heavily in training and educating all their coaches from the youngest ages on up. It paid off.
While not the end all or the be all....the education and training of coaches certainly is very important.
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