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    Can an NPL team field a DA player legally?

    Does anyone know if it is against NYCSL NPL rules to roster a player on a DA team?

    I know the DA teams don’t permit it, but is the NPL team at any risk by doing it?

    Not arguing the concept, just whether or not it breaks NPL rules.

    Thanks.

    #2
    Not an issue as they're separate entities. Same with a HS player that tries to skirt the rules - a HS coach could care less about DA rules. However, any DA player trying to play on another team risks DA penalties, including possible expulsion. Any parent trying to have their kid on multiple teams is an idiot. If the player needs extra training/touches outside of DA then ask yourself why you're doing DA/what the hell your club is doing to begin with. If need be, do private training. The system has rules. Be a good role model and follow them.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Not an issue as they're separate entities. Same with a HS player that tries to skirt the rules - a HS coach could care less about DA rules. However, any DA player trying to play on another team risks DA penalties, including possible expulsion. Any parent trying to have their kid on multiple teams is an idiot. If the player needs extra training/touches outside of DA then ask yourself why you're doing DA/what the hell your club is doing to begin with. If need be, do private training. The system has rules. Be a good role model and follow them.
      I can agree with the ethical side of it BUT if your player is not recording game minutes within DA and you believe that to improve you need regular game time along with training I can see a player doing it. The kid is just working hard to get starting minutes, maybe something similar to being on loan.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I can agree with the ethical side of it BUT if your player is not recording game minutes within DA and you believe that to improve you need regular game time along with training I can see a player doing it. The kid is just working hard to get starting minutes, maybe something similar to being on loan.
        Not sure if it's too late to do this, but if you really see that your player is not going to get enough game time to develop, I'd check with the club to see if they can change them to a part-time player. The player can train with the team and play in, I believe, 12 games through the year with the DA, but then play/train on the clubs NPL team for the remainder of the games. Doing it this way, you wouldn't be breaking any rules and may end up with better overall development.

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          #5
          Yes, they have players in DA designated as FT and PT. PT means part time player and that means they can play outside of DA. Usually that is for kids who do play some other games, maybe because they need a bit of development and the team believes game minutes in NPL or whatever would help. They can train with the DA team but may not make every trip and instead get game time in NPL, EDP or whatever.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Does anyone know if it is against NYCSL NPL rules to roster a player on a DA team?

            I know the DA teams don’t permit it, but is the NPL team at any risk by doing it?

            Not arguing the concept, just whether or not it breaks NPL rules.

            Thanks.
            Only breaks DA team rules, they are separate leagues so NPL, EDP, or any other league can use DA players, BUT the DA players are taking a big chance.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Yes, they have players in DA designated as FT and PT. PT means part time player and that means they can play outside of DA. Usually that is for kids who do play some other games, maybe because they need a bit of development and the team believes game minutes in NPL or whatever would help. They can train with the DA team but may not make every trip and instead get game time in NPL, EDP or whatever.
              PT players have to be on a B team within the same club.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Not sure if it's too late to do this, but if you really see that your player is not going to get enough game time to develop, I'd check with the club to see if they can change them to a part-time player. The player can train with the team and play in, I believe, 12 games through the year with the DA, but then play/train on the clubs NPL team for the remainder of the games. Doing it this way, you wouldn't be breaking any rules and may end up with better overall development.
                If your kid isn't getting much PT then you should be asking why you're doing DA to begin with. Talk them down a level, have them work hard if they really want it and reassess next year. Rarely playing not only does nothing for development but it can suck the love of the game right out of them

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                  #9
                  Can an NPL team field a DA player legally?

                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Not an issue as they're separate entities. Same with a HS player that tries to skirt the rules - a HS coach could care less about DA rules. However, any DA player trying to play on another team risks DA penalties, including possible expulsion. Any parent trying to have their kid on multiple teams is an idiot. If the player needs extra training/touches outside of DA then ask yourself why you're doing DA/what the hell your club is doing to begin with. If need be, do private training. The system has rules. Be a good role model and follow them.

                  One of Arnold Schwarzeneggers Rules for Success: "Break the Rules"

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    One of Arnold Schwarzeneggers Rules for Success: "Break the Rules"
                    Followed by his sequel - "Pay the Consequences" (of having an affair with the maid).

                    Get benched, possibly kicked out, definitely tick off teammates on both teams. Admirable if you want more touches, but you can get that working in the backyard, more pickup games, working with a trainer.

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                      #11
                      We just played a Varsity HS game against a team with a player on one of the local DA teams. I wouldn't think a DA player would get much development from playing school ball. Seems to be taking a huge risk.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by unregistered View Post
                        We just played a Varsity HS game against a team with a player on one of the local DA teams. I wouldn't think a DA player would get much development from playing school ball. Seems to be taking a huge risk.
                        Huge risk? It's soccer , a game, you are way over thinking this.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Huge risk? It's soccer , a game, you are way over thinking this.
                          Risk of losing DA PT, possibly even spot on the DA team. It's not allowed. The rules are very clear. Players and parens know the rules so they're most at fault. If the club isn't aware they will hear soon enough - people talk. If the club doesn't shut it down then good luck with the wrath of players who did give up HS (and they're check writing parents)

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by unregistered View Post
                            We just played a Varsity HS game against a team with a player on one of the local DA teams. I wouldn't think a DA player would get much development from playing school ball. Seems to be taking a huge risk.
                            I don't think the risk the poster is talking about is losing the player losing DA status. The bigger risk is getting injured, playing and practicing 6 days a week for HS , 2 + hours a day then add on DA- overuse injury. In addition, in HS games, an overmatched opponent may get frustrated and get a little more physical than they should resulting in injury.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              In addition, in HS games, an overmatched opponent may get frustrated and get a little more physical than they should resulting in injury.
                              This can be a real thing. I know of a player in another state who was a Club standout, but played some HS on the side. Small school, lower Division. Already committed to a D1 school before Senior year.

                              She quit 3 games into her senior season as it wasn't worth the injury risk.

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