Used to be that certified refs would be assigned the 7 v 7 games in Lancaster in fall. Great for refs because many short games in one shift. Decent money and good chance for experience. Recent seasons it appears teams from high schools get assigned to ref games instead? These “refs” mostly seem uninterested and haven’t taken the time (or expense) to get certified. Club games being done by untrained refs. Why take games away from referees that have shown they want to be there? Now actual refs in fall from that area get almost no games because of this. Anyone know what the reason for this is?
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I think there are 2 benefits. First, the referees are free. These are college teams, not high school. Second, the college students/athletes get credit for community service, or something along those lines. It is an absolute dumpster fire (IMO). the referees/college players do NOT want to be there, could not care any less what the rules are at that age, and simply will not call anything. On the boys side, you can practically murder someone without a foul call. Are there offsides or not for U9 and U10 kids? who cares, cause they'll call it either way, often in the same game.
Disclaimer: I am the dad of a now U11 boy, and I could not be happier that I am done with the farse that is Lancaster league games for NEP U9 and U10ers. -
College or high school it seems wrong. Leagues and teams pay for refs. Actual refs need the experience. Always hear complaints about not enough kids wanting toOriginally posted by Unregistered View Post
ref and now they get no games in the fall. Makes no sense.Comment
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Actually I heard at a ref meeting that these colleges refs are paid the same as the certified high school kids.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Not true at all I know a number of refs who said they used to enjoy reffing in the fall because they could many games in a row and now they don’t get any.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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So refs that want to work and have paid to get and stay certified are replaced by uncertifiedOriginally posted by Unregistered View Post
college kids? That seems really wrong.Comment
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This is nuts.
Unqualified, uncertified referees have no right to be on the field. Add to that the fact that they are disinterested and you are completely disrespecting the game.
Whoever came up with this foolish idea needs to do it right or get out of the way so someone who cares can get involved and do it right.Comment
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No different than college players and ex-college players that get hired to coach youth teams by clubs when they have no business coaching youth players. Playing soccer doesn't qualify you to teach kids the game, just like it doesn't qualify you to referee...Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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As a ref myself, I know that at least some of the older refs in the u9/u10 games are very legit based on what I see when I work with them in a 3 man crew. I focus on my game when I ref, and not others, so I can't really personally speak to what the younger refs are doing specifically in the u9/u10 brackets. Of course, when I have them as an AR in a larger game, I have to correct them more often but I give them the call if I think they had a better angle which makes my position on a certain play uncertain. I was taken aback when a coach said that I was the first "real referee" that they've had all season. I asked him to explain why he said that, mainly out of curiosity, and I left it at that after he explained himself. Lancaster has had understaffing issues for a long time, but perhaps it is time for the NEP to move toward an 8 game day versus the 6 game day they've ran for the last couple years.
The only time when reffing is "volunteer based" is when someone is not certified. Mostly, that occurs when you see someone calling a game out of uniform.Comment
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That's right - and the "referees" that they use from colleges in the fall in Lancaster are not certified. They don't wear ref gear and they keep actual certified refs from getting work.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Not sure if your a ref or not but have you seen the emails from the assignors with tons of openings? There's always game that need to be filled. My guess is this is why they are using these types of refs at the younger ages.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Also it's not the site that does the scheduling it's the assignors.Comment
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Yes I’ve seen them. Obviously the site doesn’t do the scheduling, the assignors do. This is specifically Lancaster fields being talked about and no they haven’t been posting tons of openings there. There were not many openings there last fall either. 5 full sized turf fields split up into many ulittle fields all done by non refereesOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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There hasn't been many openings in Lancaster for the last few seasons... I watch those emails all the time. Lately, they've focused the most around the Middlesex County area.
On a side note, I did notice that the referees this weekend in Lancaster for the Stars Tournament were very good, with only an exception of one guy (maybe 45 years old) who was working games all day long without of uniform.Comment
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Agreed on this. Best collection of reffed games I've seen in awhile. Neither teams parents had much to complain aboutOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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