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    Coach want the whole team to play up a year

    We have a good U11 team, the coach wants to play next year in U13 and put the kids on the big field already and then play U13 2 years in a row.... I see a lot of negatives having my 11-12 year old get hammered by bigger players.. will they really learn or should the coach be training instead of letting them learn on the field during the game. We have been lucky to have an athletic team, but I watch and don't see him teaching them the game... I am worried, and conversations with the coach are him talking over you about how great it will be....

    Thoughts, would you let them play up or move to another top performing team and continue the evoluition?

    #2
    USSF created small sided games for a reason. Small kids on a big field just tests how fast the kids can run. Not how well they can play.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      We have a good U11 team, the coach wants to play next year in U13 and put the kids on the big field already and then play U13 2 years in a row.... I see a lot of negatives having my 11-12 year old get hammered by bigger players.. will they really learn or should the coach be training instead of letting them learn on the field during the game. We have been lucky to have an athletic team, but I watch and don't see him teaching them the game... I am worried, and conversations with the coach are him talking over you about how great it will be....

      Thoughts, would you let them play up or move to another top performing team and continue the evoluition?
      Only certain players should play up a year - because they are far more skilled than their peers and need the challenge. That will never apply to an entire team. I agree with above - there's small sided for a reason. Yes eventually they need to go to a bigger field, and some U12 teams will do more 11v11 games in the spring in preparation for that. But that doesn't mean that doing 11v11 vs kids a year older for an entire year is a good idea. Some players will get frustrated and maybe even quit. That won't do anyone any good. Chances are other parents on your team feel the same. Rally them together and tell the club or coach what you think. They won't want to lose a group of people - there's power in numbers

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        #4
        If looking for a new team that is going to stay on the mid-sized field, Ronkonkoma has three teams to choose from ranging from LIJSL to NYPL to EDP.

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          #5
          I saw a World Class and PDA U-12 teams playing U-13s and they held their own just fine.

          I am not from your NY/NJ area so I don't know if it is an anomaly with them, or even this age group.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I saw a World Class and PDA U-12 teams playing U-13s and they held their own just fine.

            I am not from your NY/NJ area so I don't know if it is an anomaly with them, or even this age group.
            It's not a matter of holding their own. It's a matter of developing their skills. If most of the game action involves flat out running because the field is literally twice the size, it's a lost development opportunity.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              It's not a matter of holding their own. It's a matter of developing their skills. If most of the game action involves flat out running because the field is literally twice the size, it's a lost development opportunity.
              And a large club may have enough players to put together a team that can just pull that off (although I agree with your assessment). At a smaller club what are the odds an 14+ kids should be doing the same or are even capable of keeping up with kids a year older? Probably not so good. I don't agree with much of what USSF does but I have no issue with waiting for 11v11. I do like the idea of fall being small sided and spring having at least some games be 11v11 so players start thinking about the bigger field. It is a big change

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                It's not a matter of holding their own. It's a matter of developing their skills. If most of the game action involves flat out running because the field is literally twice the size, it's a lost development opportunity.

                I understand your point. I was just saying these kids didn't seem out of water and one could argue they were in the right group based on where they'd be challenged.

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                  #9
                  My D played on a U11 team that played up a year this year but that was fine by me because it was still within the 9v9 window. There were games where things were tough because of the size difference (11-12 is a big growth year for girls I have learned) but overall it was ok and they all really learned to deal with the increased speed over the course of the year.

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                    #10
                    Recently watched the World Class FC 06 team play the Alley Cats '05 team. WC was able to stay in the game and actually win because they have a lot of skill and very strong defenders. The size difference between the 2 was astounding. It may sound like a great idea in the beginning of the year, but by June the size difference is a little scary.

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                      #11
                      Some kids start hitting puberty hard at U13. There can be some real size differences. I can't think of any positives in having an entire team playing up unless you are in the top division and dominating all the other teams.

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                        #12
                        It seems like the problem isn't the wrong age but the wrong league.

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                          #13
                          Doing this tends to be more common with NPL teams that have to field 2 teams at U12. Some just take their U11 and have them play up a year to be the 2nd NPL team. My kid's team did this and the size difference definitely became very pronounced by the spring season.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Doing this tends to be more common with NPL teams that have to field 2 teams at U12. Some just take their U11 and have them play up a year to be the 2nd NPL team. My kid's team did this and the size difference definitely became very pronounced by the spring season.
                            One of my kids did that and the difference did become a real issue for my kid who was one of the youngest. Didn't do wonders for their confidence.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Doing this tends to be more common with NPL teams that have to field 2 teams at U12. Some just take their U11 and have them play up a year to be the 2nd NPL team. My kid's team did this and the size difference definitely became very pronounced by the spring season.
                              Yeah, but at least U11 and U12 both use the same sized field and both play 9v9. U13 involves a field twice the size and with more players.

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