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    My daughter stayed back in kindergarten. She continued playing soccer with the team she started with in kindergarten, most of them were a birth year above her so when the birth year change happened they let her play up. She has been playing on the team and doing fine. Well, now the coach has a meeting with my wife and I telling us that he feels next year my daughter should play with her own age group next year and that she should attend tryouts for her birth year. We have a lot of mixed feeling about it because she is a strong player, and the age group below her is mixed with her birth year (2005) and some 2006, so she would be playing with younger players. On her current team, we worry about the entire team going to high school and my daughter being the only one left in 8th grade so she won't have a fall team to play on. Is it better for her to play up or play with her age group and younger? I have seen the younger team and they are nowhere near the level that her current team is at. Or should I just have her go to a different club entirely?

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    Is she "doing fine" or is she dominating? In theory playing up is supposed to be not just for players who dominate their age appropriate team but players who are say in the top 5 of the older team. Regardless, the coach doesn't want her on the team so message sent. If the age appropriate team isn't sufficient to challenge her then you should look elsewhere. That doesn't mean you end up leaving - things can change between now and next fall. Coaches change, new players coming in, current leave. But over the winter and early spring take her to some practices at other clubs to see where she fits in. Call clubs in your area to ask about coming to practices and ask about their grade mix. A bigger club might have more players caught up in this absurd age change and try to make sure players who are stuck have a place to play when the rest go to HS.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      My daughter stayed back in kindergarten. She continued playing soccer with the team she started with in kindergarten, most of them were a birth year above her so when the birth year change happened they let her play up. She has been playing on the team and doing fine. Well, now the coach has a meeting with my wife and I telling us that he feels next year my daughter should play with her own age group next year and that she should attend tryouts for her birth year. We have a lot of mixed feeling about it because she is a strong player, and the age group below her is mixed with her birth year (2005) and some 2006, so she would be playing with younger players. On her current team, we worry about the entire team going to high school and my daughter being the only one left in 8th grade so she won't have a fall team to play on. Is it better for her to play up or play with her age group and younger? I have seen the younger team and they are nowhere near the level that her current team is at. Or should I just have her go to a different club entirely?
      You have much bigger problems than soccer if she was held back in kindergarten

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        You have much bigger problems than soccer if she was held back in kindergarten
        You're an imbecile.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          You have much bigger problems than soccer if she was held back in kindergarten
          We kept her back in kindergarten due to missing 3 months of school because of an illness. It was our decision. My daughter is actually very smart. You are truly pathetic. I feel sorry for your kids and anyone else who has to be around you.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You have much bigger problems than soccer if she was held back in kindergarten
            Hahahaha. Nice Catch

            More seriously, playing up is so 90s. New model is to Play Down, dominate BY, Align D with her recruiting class, and get onto team that plays on highest rung of ladder. New Team = New Friends.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Is she "doing fine" or is she dominating? In theory playing up is supposed to be not just for players who dominate their age appropriate team but players who are say in the top 5 of the older team. Regardless, the coach doesn't want her on the team so message sent. If the age appropriate team isn't sufficient to challenge her then you should look elsewhere. That doesn't mean you end up leaving - things can change between now and next fall. Coaches change, new players coming in, current leave. But over the winter and early spring take her to some practices at other clubs to see where she fits in. Call clubs in your area to ask about coming to practices and ask about their grade mix. A bigger club might have more players caught up in this absurd age change and try to make sure players who are stuck have a place to play when the rest go to HS.
              She is in the top half of the team and scoring a ton of goals for the team. I think they want to try to even out the teams strictly by birth year.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Hahahaha. Nice Catch

                More seriously, playing up is so 90s. New model is to Play Down, dominate BY, Align D with her recruiting class, and get onto team that plays on highest rung of ladder. New Team = New Friends.
                What is BY? I like your thinking. I think playing with her age group she can do some serious damage. Just not with her current club.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You have much bigger problems than soccer if she was held back in kindergarten
                  Typical ignorant or snarky TS comment. Lots of parents hold kids back in kindergarten to give them an advantage in school. Usually happens when a kid is born near the academic cutoff of June/July. Those kids are the youngest in their grade and holding them back in K allows them more time to mature and develop, and of course they are the oldest in their grade at that point. Similar to relative age effect... no reason a kid should struggle in school just because they were unlucky and born in a disadvantageous month.

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                    #10
                    Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You have much bigger problems than soccer if she was held back in kindergarten


                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You're an imbecile.

                    Actually, I agree with the state that they have much bigger problems. The OP tells us that his current 12 (?) year old was held back in kindergarten but has been playing up a year since? I am curious as to who she hangs out with....her classmates or her teammates? I would like to think that her parents have emphasized becoming friends with her classmates.


                    If she hangs out with her classmates then let her play with her classmates. If she hangs out with her teammates then apply to play up realizing that the town might say otherwise.

                    Does she play club? If so, does she play with her current teammates?
                    If you were talking about a boy, then I would say he should play his age...for physical reasons. For girls, playing up seems to be less of an issue physically.

                    What does your daughter want to do?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      What is BY? I like your thinking. I think playing with her age group she can do some serious damage. Just not with her current club.
                      Birth Year

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        You have much bigger problems than soccer if she was held back in kindergarten
                        Sounds like your parents should have held you back for several years. They certainly failed at raising a decent human being.

                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        We kept her back in kindergarten due to missing 3 months of school because of an illness. It was our decision. My daughter is actually very smart. You are truly pathetic. I feel sorry for your kids and anyone else who has to be around you.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          What is BY? I like your thinking. I think playing with her age group she can do some serious damage. Just not with her current club.
                          OP said the birth year team isn't very good. What does a player get out of that other than scoring lots of goals?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            My daughter stayed back in kindergarten. She continued playing soccer with the team she started with in kindergarten, most of them were a birth year above her so when the birth year change happened they let her play up. She has been playing on the team and doing fine. Well, now the coach has a meeting with my wife and I telling us that he feels next year my daughter should play with her own age group next year and that she should attend tryouts for her birth year. We have a lot of mixed feeling about it because she is a strong player, and the age group below her is mixed with her birth year (2005) and some 2006, so she would be playing with younger players. On her current team, we worry about the entire team going to high school and my daughter being the only one left in 8th grade so she won't have a fall team to play on. Is it better for her to play up or play with her age group and younger? I have seen the younger team and they are nowhere near the level that her current team is at. Or should I just have her go to a different club entirely?
                            Staying back is irrelevant. Your situation is no different than any other family who has a Jan - Jul child that once played with their class under Academic Year, and now has option to continue with grade level team, or play (down) with birth year. Assuming this is club, you state she has been with team since Kindergarten, so seems safe to assume this is local club or local branch of big club. 6th grade is beginning of time to put the big-boy pants on. If she is that good, it's time to change clubs or go to higher level team within existing club. Soccer Play dates are over

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                              #15
                              What level are we talking about? I doubt its top level or they wouldn't have a "combined" team. Sounds like a numbers issue. Find a higher level team and play on age is my advice.

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