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    Daddy Coach is not a troll

    If you pay attention here, you might even realize I've posted here before. I'm not from there.

    I have a serious question and I swear I'm not a troll. My club has three levels of soccer. A Rec level, an advanced Rec level (some would call it "Rec Plus") and the Elite/Premier Level.

    I coach a team in the middle. We are sort of like a select rec program without travel.

    Here's the question. I've got two strikes against me because I'm a Daddy Coach, and I never actually played soccer. So yeah...I can't juggle. I'm not great at kicking the ball either. I'm an older guy too, which doesn't help.

    Again, I promise I'm serious here. I've been coaching for several years. And I've diligently tried to improve my skills as a coach. I have a license and a couple certificates.

    For the last 2 years (and now working on my third year), I've been very successful working with my teams which run the range from U12 to U15s. In my middle bracket, I have coached my kids to a lot of wins. I know it's all about development, but my teams tend to be older and in this middle tier, most parents and kids want to see wins.

    No kidding now, I've figured out that in the last two years, my teams have won over 90% of their games in the local area. If we want to lose, we have to enter an elite/premier tournament.

    But the problem is that this is my resume.

    Should I try to move up? Would you, as parents, accept a coach at the Elite/Premier that had that kind of win/loss record without experience playing the game? (I'm serious). I estimate my team(s) have lost only 5 games in about 50 played.

    Really not a troll. What do you think? My youngest kid is outgrowing the team, and that's the last of my kids in youth soccer. Trying to decide what to do next.

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    If you pay attention here, you might even realize I've posted here before. I'm not from there.

    I have a serious question and I swear I'm not a troll. My club has three levels of soccer. A Rec level, an advanced Rec level (some would call it "Rec Plus") and the Elite/Premier Level.

    I coach a team in the middle. We are sort of like a select rec program without travel.

    Here's the question. I've got two strikes against me because I'm a Daddy Coach, and I never actually played soccer. So yeah...I can't juggle. I'm not great at kicking the ball either. I'm an older guy too, which doesn't help.

    Again, I promise I'm serious here. I've been coaching for several years. And I've diligently tried to improve my skills as a coach. I have a license and a couple certificates.

    For the last 2 years (and now working on my third year), I've been very successful working with my teams which run the range from U12 to U15s. In my middle bracket, I have coached my kids to a lot of wins. I know it's all about development, but my teams tend to be older and in this middle tier, most parents and kids want to see wins.

    No kidding now, I've figured out that in the last two years, my teams have won over 90% of their games in the local area. If we want to lose, we have to enter an elite/premier tournament.

    But the problem is that this is my resume.

    Should I try to move up? Would you, as parents, accept a coach at the Elite/Premier that had that kind of win/loss record without experience playing the game? (I'm serious). I estimate my team(s) have lost only 5 games in about 50 played.

    Really not a troll. What do you think? My youngest kid is outgrowing the team, and that's the last of my kids in youth soccer. Trying to decide what to do next.
    Well, your time will soon be over. Pass the torch to someone following with a kid in the program and go find another hobby. Thanks for your service.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      If you pay attention here, you might even realize I've posted here before. I'm not from there.

      I have a serious question and I swear I'm not a troll. My club has three levels of soccer. A Rec level, an advanced Rec level (some would call it "Rec Plus") and the Elite/Premier Level.

      I coach a team in the middle. We are sort of like a select rec program without travel.

      Here's the question. I've got two strikes against me because I'm a Daddy Coach, and I never actually played soccer. So yeah...I can't juggle. I'm not great at kicking the ball either. I'm an older guy too, which doesn't help.

      Again, I promise I'm serious here. I've been coaching for several years. And I've diligently tried to improve my skills as a coach. I have a license and a couple certificates.

      For the last 2 years (and now working on my third year), I've been very successful working with my teams which run the range from U12 to U15s. In my middle bracket, I have coached my kids to a lot of wins. I know it's all about development, but my teams tend to be older and in this middle tier, most parents and kids want to see wins.

      No kidding now, I've figured out that in the last two years, my teams have won over 90% of their games in the local area. If we want to lose, we have to enter an elite/premier tournament.

      But the problem is that this is my resume.

      Should I try to move up? Would you, as parents, accept a coach at the Elite/Premier that had that kind of win/loss record without experience playing the game? (I'm serious). I estimate my team(s) have lost only 5 games in about 50 played.

      Really not a troll. What do you think? My youngest kid is outgrowing the team, and that's the last of my kids in youth soccer. Trying to decide what to do next.
      As a parent I don't care about Ws - I do care that I'm paying a boatload of money and I expect my kid's skills to get markedly better. If you can deliver that, then sure, why not? If all you do is win at any cost while kids rot, then it's time to step away.

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        #4
        Here's what I did with my last kid. I had coached for years having other kids in the system. Politics in the club were nuts. Parents had no f^ng clue but, by the end, weren't afraid to voice their opinion. Club brass were selling out to the local premier clubs. I had given tons of time, experience, and skill to coaching a team that got better each and every year I had it, as did each and every single player. We went from a bottom team to top one or two through teamwork more than individual skill, we succeeded in tournaments, and performed well in CT Cup. I was done with the bullsh by the end of the U11 season for my last kid. So, I took my kid to tryouts and my kid earned a spot on a big 3 A team, I found places to play for the remainder of my players who wanted me to, and I let the team and the club go. In a period of 3 years, the club has shrunk to 30% of its former size and I am glad only to see those wankers at high school games (I guess that narrows my "big 3" team down).

        I do not miss those final couple of years with know-it-all parents and club leadership with agendas that contradicted club success. All the parents who follow and pay more dollars for less quality and get training from the soccer equivalent of used car salesmen can thank the know-it-alls who went before. You should not miss those years, either. Go hiking. Kayaking. Learn a new craft.

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          #5
          A Daddy Coach is a Daddy Coach you will never shake that tag. If you really want to coach get your liscense and stop coaching your kids teams.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            If you pay attention here, you might even realize I've posted here before. I'm not from there.

            I have a serious question and I swear I'm not a troll. My club has three levels of soccer. A Rec level, an advanced Rec level (some would call it "Rec Plus") and the Elite/Premier Level.

            I coach a team in the middle. We are sort of like a select rec program without travel.

            Here's the question. I've got two strikes against me because I'm a Daddy Coach, and I never actually played soccer. So yeah...I can't juggle. I'm not great at kicking the ball either. I'm an older guy too, which doesn't help.

            Again, I promise I'm serious here. I've been coaching for several years. And I've diligently tried to improve my skills as a coach. I have a license and a couple certificates.

            For the last 2 years (and now working on my third year), I've been very successful working with my teams which run the range from U12 to U15s. In my middle bracket, I have coached my kids to a lot of wins. I know it's all about development, but my teams tend to be older and in this middle tier, most parents and kids want to see wins.

            No kidding now, I've figured out that in the last two years, my teams have won over 90% of their games in the local area. If we want to lose, we have to enter an elite/premier tournament.

            But the problem is that this is my resume.

            Should I try to move up? Would you, as parents, accept a coach at the Elite/Premier that had that kind of win/loss record without experience playing the game? (I'm serious). I estimate my team(s) have lost only 5 games in about 50 played.

            Really not a troll. What do you think? My youngest kid is outgrowing the team, and that's the last of my kids in youth soccer. Trying to decide what to do next.
            The fact that you are so in tune with and proud of the number and percentage of wins your team has indicates to me that you focused on the wrong metrics for success. You never mentioned that the kids on your team are consistently more technical and smarter than their peers on other teams and you never mentioned that they simply love it and can't get enough.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              A Daddy Coach is a Daddy Coach you will never shake that tag. If you really want to coach get your liscense and stop coaching your kids teams.
              There is no way I'd ever coach town club if my kid isn't on the team. I've 16 years coaching experience on top of college playing experience on top of a C license. Parents at town clubs are all over you with whining and complaints and how to do it better, even through the team and their kid is showing marked improvement. Some get p!ssed when you give the "weaker" kids playing time, and some get p!ssed when you give the "stronger" kids playing timep. All will try to track you down after practice, before and after games, and at home, not to mention they'll complain to the club, and the board are a bunch of self-interested azzhats who are more interested in promoting their buddy's popup premier club and taking kids away from the town program.

              I don't ever want to again, because it was a hobby for me and I've moved on, but your best situation might be coaching for pay at a regional or long-term premier club, like SCP, NEU, Wolves, and the like. You can better keep the parents at bay when you get paid for the job, and the club stands behind you. And, you can effectively replace kids whose parents are unhappy without dealing with the parents b!tching directly.

              So, if you are going to coach without your kid, I'd get a C license, play adult league soccer (if you have no previous playing experience), go watch some college games, catch soccer on the telly, and do the last one.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The fact that you are so in tune with and proud of the number and percentage of wins your team has indicates to me that you focused on the wrong metrics for success. You never mentioned that the kids on your team are consistently more technical and smarter than their peers on other teams and you never mentioned that they simply love it and can't get enough.
                You miss the point. With team and player development came success. Each and every player got measurably better for me at the town level, we met coaching goals, and teamplay was the big piece, because I never had that one superstar.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You miss the point. With team and player development came success. Each and every player got measurably better for me at the town level, we met coaching goals, and teamplay was the big piece, because I never had that one superstar.
                  Oh, sorry, was answering the wrong answer. It happens. :D

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                    #10
                    Seems like you are a ripe candidate to take up reffing. And, I don't mean that as sarcasm at all.

                    Know the game well enough.

                    Appear to want to stay involved.

                    No kids to tie you down.

                    Everyone needs good refs.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Well, your time will soon be over. Pass the torch to someone following with a kid in the program and go find another hobby. Thanks for your service.
                      Please pass it on to someone that can bring out the nuance of the game. Well done. Step aside

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                        #12
                        It is an unfortunate tag that is hard to shake even with licensure. Another option is stay where you are. There aren't enough coaches at the lower levels that are enthusiastic and try to learn. Most do what you are thinking - leave once their kids do. IF you really enjoy it then stay.

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                          #13
                          If you love coaching then coach. If your kid isn't on your team, you aren't a Daddy Coach.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If you pay attention here, you might even realize I've posted here before. I'm not from there.

                            I have a serious question and I swear I'm not a troll. My club has three levels of soccer. A Rec level, an advanced Rec level (some would call it "Rec Plus") and the Elite/Premier Level.

                            I coach a team in the middle. We are sort of like a select rec program without travel.

                            Here's the question. I've got two strikes against me because I'm a Daddy Coach, and I never actually played soccer. So yeah...I can't juggle. I'm not great at kicking the ball either. I'm an older guy too, which doesn't help.

                            Again, I promise I'm serious here. I've been coaching for several years. And I've diligently tried to improve my skills as a coach. I have a license and a couple certificates.

                            For the last 2 years (and now working on my third year), I've been very successful working with my teams which run the range from U12 to U15s. In my middle bracket, I have coached my kids to a lot of wins. I know it's all about development, but my teams tend to be older and in this middle tier, most parents and kids want to see wins.

                            No kidding now, I've figured out that in the last two years, my teams have won over 90% of their games in the local area. If we want to lose, we have to enter an elite/premier tournament.

                            But the problem is that this is my resume.

                            Should I try to move up? Would you, as parents, accept a coach at the Elite/Premier that had that kind of win/loss record without experience playing the game? (I'm serious). I estimate my team(s) have lost only 5 games in about 50 played.

                            Really not a troll. What do you think? My youngest kid is outgrowing the team, and that's the last of my kids in youth soccer. Trying to decide what to do next.
                            EB is that you. Good to see OW being up front with this post

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              EB is that you. Good to see OW being up front with this post
                              EB allegedly sux ballz. I said allegedly. He certainly might be king of the veinless dog. What an inept coach that guy is.

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