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    Does your club help with college?

    Daughter just finished a year with a major club and am very disappointed in clubs efforts to place her. What does your club do?

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Daughter just finished a year with a major club and am very disappointed in clubs efforts to place her. What does your club do?
    Yep. Sorry to be your kid

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      #3
      I hope you didn't think your club would just magically land your kid a spot. Most of the work falls on your kid, not the club. Better clubs will have maybe a presentation about the process and information on line to read. Coaches should meet with each family to talk about what level of play is appropriate for the player and offer a few suggestions of programs. After that the player has to start identifying programs, contacting coahes, sending game and tourney schedules, doing visits, doing ID camps and selling themselves. A club may (should) take calls from college coaches or make them on the player's behalf, but that's about all they do at that point. The heavy lifting is the player's work, not the club

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I hope you didn't think your club would just magically land your kid a spot. Most of the work falls on your kid, not the club. Better clubs will have maybe a presentation about the process and information on line to read. Coaches should meet with each family to talk about what level of play is appropriate for the player and offer a few suggestions of programs. After that the player has to start identifying programs, contacting coahes, sending game and tourney schedules, doing visits, doing ID camps and selling themselves. A club may (should) take calls from college coaches or make them on the player's behalf, but that's about all they do at that point. The heavy lifting is the player's work, not the club
        That sums it up perfectly. Even at CFCU with the best track record in the area, it's 90% on the kid/parent in terms of the legwork. The club gets you to the best events for exposure and certainly jump in to negotiate the deal.

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          #5
          FSA: not really. You're on your own.

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            #6
            not sure why anyone assumes that this falls on the Club. Like most things its a function of the players ability and the relationships you build within the Club.

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              #7
              When your recently graduated kid is trying to get a job and you reach out to a friend in the industry. That should be what a club does. They should provide your kid with an introduction and vouch for your bonafides. The family/kid needs to do the rest.

              "certainly jump in to negotiate the deal." ????

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                not sure why anyone assumes that this falls on the Club. Like most things its a function of the players ability and the relationships you build within the Club.
                It doesn't just fall on the club. But, the club should partner with the players to help.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  FSA: not really. You're on your own.
                  And don't be shocked when your FSA coach doesn't hi-light your daughter's strength to the coaches that approach them. I have heard from more than one of the older kids parents that they are fairly certain that the college coaches contact with their coach (3 of the ECNL coaches) actually killed their chances of going to some of their top choices. That was very surprising to hear. I get the integrity and not lying part, but it sounds as if they not only didn't accentuate the kid but that their comments included negative statements.
                  PS - The schools were only mid to lower tier D1 schools that I heard about. Perhaps another reason FSA commit lists are not great, but I can't figure out why they wouldn't find a way to sell their kids better than what they have apparently been doing.

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                    #10
                    Can't speak for any other club but CFC has been more than helpful with us and for that matter our team. CFC has walked my daughter and I through the process and has contacted several coaches that they have good relationships with and we have been on college visits that the coaches have spent an entire day with us. There is not a close 2nd in the college placement to CFC. Friends of ours are with other clubs and they don't get close to what we get at CFC.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      And don't be shocked when your FSA coach doesn't hi-light your daughter's strength to the coaches that approach them. I have heard from more than one of the older kids parents that they are fairly certain that the college coaches contact with their coach (3 of the ECNL coaches) actually killed their chances of going to some of their top choices. That was very surprising to hear. I get the integrity and not lying part, but it sounds as if they not only didn't accentuate the kid but that their comments included negative statements.
                      PS - The schools were only mid to lower tier D1 schools that I heard about. Perhaps another reason FSA commit lists are not great, but I can't figure out why they wouldn't find a way to sell their kids better than what they have apparently been doing.
                      PPS - As a parent of a kid entering the recruiting process in another year or so, this is worrisome and I wonder if this is what sets CFC's recruiting list from ours. I don't care what school my daughter chooses as long as it is a good fit but I do not want her to be hampered by her own coaches if she finds a great school that does offer athletic money. She is not a top 50 school, D1 player but she is a solid starter on her team and can definitely play D1 or D2. I think about this scenario a good amount and it seems like that would put her at a major disadvantage, even from non-ECNL who have coaches that "sell them" better.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Can't speak for any other club but CFC has been more than helpful with us and for that matter our team. CFC has walked my daughter and I through the process and has contacted several coaches that they have good relationships with and we have been on college visits that the coaches have spent an entire day with us. There is not a close 2nd in the college placement to CFC. Friends of ours are with other clubs and they don't get close to what we get at CFC.
                        I've heard that CFC actually helps in reaching out to college coaches to help players get placed. TP apparently is very well connected in this regard.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          PPS - As a parent of a kid entering the recruiting process in another year or so, this is worrisome and I wonder if this is what sets CFC's recruiting list from ours. I don't care what school my daughter chooses as long as it is a good fit but I do not want her to be hampered by her own coaches if she finds a great school that does offer athletic money. She is not a top 50 school, D1 player but she is a solid starter on her team and can definitely play D1 or D2. I think about this scenario a good amount and it seems like that would put her at a major disadvantage, even from non-ECNL who have coaches that "sell them" better.
                          You should be concerned. I'm not just dissing FSA (although they have that reputation) but any coach that might hamper a player's chances. We have one at our club that has a reputation of being very lazy, as in often times won't return phone calls from college coaches. Imagine what that says to a college coach? They won't think he's lazy - they'll think the club coach thinks so little of you he can't be bothered. In those cases you should rely on other coaches you have a good relationship with or the club DOC as much as you can.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I've heard that CFC actually helps in reaching out to college coaches to help players get placed. TP apparently is very well connected in this regard.
                            ok let's not go too crazy with the pro CFC posts. Yes they do more on average and certainly have a better placement list. But the vast majority of the work still falls on the player targeting the right schools, reaching out, visiting and selling themselves with their field skills, academic fit etc

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              ok let's not go too crazy with the pro CFC posts. Yes they do more on average and certainly have a better placement list. But the vast majority of the work still falls on the player targeting the right schools, reaching out, visiting and selling themselves with their field skills, academic fit etc
                              http://www.empireofsoccer.com/the-mc...ge-game-62894/

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