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    Youth Transfer fees

    D you think youth clubs will ever institute transfer fees?

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    D you think youth clubs will ever institute transfer fees?
    Thank you so much for getting this discussion started. I have been a huge proponent for transfer fees for some time now. It would solve so many issues and it needs to be implemented as as possible.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Thank you so much for getting this discussion started. I have been a huge proponent for transfer fees for some time now. It would solve so many issues and it needs to be implemented as as possible.
      Transfer fees only make sense for if a club was compensating a player. In the vast majority of cases, the players are paying the club to be trained and the club should not be additionally compensated in any way shape or form.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Transfer fees only make sense for if a club was compensating a player. In the vast majority of cases, the players are paying the club to be trained and the club should not be additionally compensated in any way shape or form.
        Exactly, so your saying there is no value in that??? What is wrong with you?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Transfer fees only make sense for if a club was compensating a player. In the vast majority of cases, the players are paying the club to be trained and the club should not be additionally compensated in any way shape or form.
          For every player for whom a fee would be paid, there are a dozen others probably stuck in a club forever when no one will pay the fee.

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            #6
            I am wondering if the time, resources, skills acquired have a value that clubs would want to protect.

            Obviously receiving clubs benefit greatly from development that feeder clubs perform. No receiving club would want to pay a fee but there is value to what feeder clubs do. If you look at both ECNL and DA clubs as an example, they recruit or are the recipient of strong, previously developed talent from other clubs. No investment required to recruit or poach.

            Some Clubs pay already on some level when they offer discounts or Free/no fees, free uniforms to entice players to switch. The player benefits, the receiver club benefits with instant talent, the feeder takes the loss.

            Jordan Morris is a good example of an Amateur player who played Club youth and then Pro-Youth for the Sounders and Seattle owned his Amateur rights.

            This is not a bash ECNL or DA discussion so don't go there.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I am wondering if the time, resources, skills acquired have a value that clubs would want to protect.

              Obviously receiving clubs benefit greatly from development that feeder clubs perform. No receiving club would want to pay a fee but there is value to what feeder clubs do. If you look at both ECNL and DA clubs as an example, they recruit or are the recipient of strong, previously developed talent from other clubs. No investment required to recruit or poach.

              Some Clubs pay already on some level when they offer discounts or Free/no fees, free uniforms to entice players to switch. The player benefits, the receiver club benefits with instant talent, the feeder takes the loss.

              Jordan Morris is a good example of an Amateur player who played Club youth and then Pro-Youth for the Sounders and Seattle owned his Amateur rights.

              This is not a bash ECNL or DA discussion so don't go there.

              Where is the loss? When a player is at a club, they pay the fees for the training. When they go to a different club, they pay for their training at that club. The prior club no longer has any costs to provide services to that player.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Where is the loss? When a player is at a club, they pay the fees for the training. When they go to a different club, they pay for their training at that club. The prior club no longer has any costs to provide services to that player.
                Exactly. The original club made $0 investment, as they were already paid (by the player) for their training efforts. There is no investment to protect.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Exactly. The original club made $0 investment, as they were already paid (by the player) for their training efforts. There is no investment to protect.
                  Except at MLS clubs where players play for free. Then the club is investing in the player. You might even stretch it to any club that gave a player a scholarship. But really this is an issue limited to MLS/professional clubs. Even there it's murky territory with US labor laws. Fees at the club level? Will never happen - parents already overpay for what they get in return. Why should a club benefit in addition to that?

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                    #10
                    Transfer Fees !?!
                    US Soccer is a pay-to-play system. And you want to work on ways that the clubs can make even more moeny !?

                    Try working on a way that families do not have to pay thousands and thousands of dollars if they want their child to have any chance to even be looked at by the top level in the sport.

                    Try working on a way where reaching the highest level of soccer is merit based, rather than financially based.

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                      #11
                      Okay geniuses. Assuming there is more coming in than what was paid, should they turn it down and not invest. The reason they invest overseas is because the payoff is worth it. Only you idiots seem to think our system is better.

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                        #12
                        next question:


                        Why not charge colleges for taking "your" player to the next level? Hell, they can afford it...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Okay geniuses. Assuming there is more coming in than what was paid, should they turn it down and not invest. The reason they invest overseas is because the payoff is worth it. Only you idiots seem to think our system is better.
                          Which system ends up better for the players that do not go pro (which is basically almost all of them)?

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                            #14
                            Some clubs are charging parents fees if they want to take their kid to a different club. A well known club in SFla is charging $7500.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Some clubs are charging parents fees if they want to take their kid to a different club. A well known club in SFla is charging $7500.
                              An in season transfer to a different club is a different issue. Just wait until you registration contract expires and you can switch clubs for free. This thread is an entirely different discussion about player rights and supposed club investment.

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