We aren't anymore, but we had to make the best decision for our kids. Unless you have the time, skills and leadership to get involved in the politics, all you can do is find the best fit for your kid. Rec or other sports are a good option for some. But if you are looking for a good coach and team to teach your kid soccer and team skills, you can probably find one nearby and change if needed. We have had more than one kid, boy and girl. We made the best decision we could at the time. We started in rec and then talked to the nearby clubs and did the best we could. We have seen a lot of changes but nothing really changed though-still very political!

Having a child in the pay-to-play system for many years and through numerous clubs the fact remains that these clubs are businesses and they care very little about developing top players. Your kid is a paycheck. That's all.

Agreed. So the best you can do is try and wade through it as best you and look out for the best interest of your child. Best lesson to any newbie is don't be loyal to clubs because they won't be loyal to you. Accept that reality and it actually can be a more manageable process.

100 % agree.

There is no incentive to develop players. There is huge incentive inregistering as many players as possible for the highest fee possible.

Only the Timbers have a financial incentive (HGP). All other clubs are in the recreation business.

Even home grown $ potential is limited because of US labor laws etc. We simply don't have the same systems in place as they do elsewhere in the world. That has pros and cons to it. Besides, that only benefits a few. Youth soccer is a massive industrial complex with plenty of money to be made. Always remember that

True. Timbers have a HUGE financial incentive. Pure profit raking in all those membership fees, Timbers Alliance fees, league fees, ODP/RTC fees, etc. PURE PROFIT.

you're high if you really think that the Timbers make their money on what you mentioned above. I bet they break even at best.

They would have to be idiots not to make money off of league + tournaments . . . OPL ran at a substantial surplus.

More guessing on ODP, but suspect they do well there.

No idea what/if they make $ off of those patches all over alliance clubs.

Salaries
LOSC/Crossfire DoC: $140,00
LOSC 2nd in Charge: $102,000
PCU Doc: $180,00
PCU: $140,000
PCU: $110,000
BSC: $103,000

Maybe it ain't just the Timbers scamming us.

What do these people do to make this much money? Six figures coaching kids?

Ok, so we don't have the quality of service. What are other options?

This is rocket science folks

Regarding Peregrine Enterprises with the OYSA Leagues and their Day Care Kiddie camps.


Peregrine LLC, (Thorns/Timbers) makes the most profit off the hundreds and hundreds of clubs and teams that supply the match fields to play OYSA/Timbers league games & Tournaments. It's not like Peregrine invested 100's of millions of dollars into building soccer field complex's all over this state and decided to use league fee revenues to offset this investment, no chance that's too risky and no return. Instead tell every team/clubs to bring their own million dollar land and fields. That they get via city and school taxpayer dollars and poof!! Paulson could make bank!! Without having to absorb the real cost of leasing or owning the fields that league games are played on.

Paulson in the middle 2000's just happened to slip into 'Soccer' when the city of Portland and the local community rejected his dream of being a Baseball AAA owner. But he learned real quick that this city did have a rich history in the NASL and a fan base that was incredible and the light switch on...with the city's help he managed to secure the key to the castle at Civic Stadium and the City of Portland council boobs kept Oregon weird and ignorantly funded the renovation of Civic Stadium to the tune of millions & millions of dollars of more taxpayers dollars, and he Paulson got a sweetheart cheap lease on a city central home for pennies on the real estate value dollar. Now he is able to rent a penthouse for life, for dirt cheap, have the turf changed out by the landlord (city of portland) every 2 years without having to pay for it. It's such a sick, sweet deal even he had no problem abandoning his Baseball dream, he was OK with just getting handed the keys to the castle by the loons at city hall. Within 10 years he would have enough street cred and Daddy's captial to move on the MLB world. Great Plan.

Back to the profit centers at your Soccer State association's non-profit headquarters.
Low overhead is the key feature of the League revenue model for Peregine needed only to find a hopeless dork to schedule the matches and assign referees (the only real tangible) match cost).

OYSA doesn't get a cut for providing basic member servces, league and state cup play. The fat in this exchange by law should go to the 501c3 that is providing member services. But GW cut the OYSA out now the hundreds of thousands $$ are funneled it to Peregrine, a MLS general manager that uses a non-profit state association to improve the bottom line at Peregrine. Sketchy, unethical and absurd for sure, criminal possibly.

With all that said, guess what the local clubs continue to hand over the cherished soccer fields to the Peregrine clowns who the local clubs allow to run kiddie day care in the form of a so callled 'Timbers' camp all over the State on taxpayer dollars fields/complex for again a cost of pennies on dollar. This is the other cash cow that feeds the Peregrine business model in the world of f'd up Oregon youth soccer. For all the vitriol spewed by the LOSC, THUSC, WUSC, SSC, NEU and FC Portland's of the world about the Timbers and the mythical Timbers alliance these Warren Buffet educatied coaching bums, actually gladly provide the fields to the Peregrine group, yes they are really that stupid.

Only themselves to blame.

Truth stranger than fiction--ever wonder why you spend thousands to play in league you don't belong in (ECNL) the same leadership that takes it up the *****$ from Peregrine gets to return the favor to you the parents with decisions that bankrupt most middle class families.

All wrapped around a TEAM SPORT of 11 players that only ask is to provide a. SOCCER BALL. Nothing else.

Ecosystem of Youth Soccer in Oregon...

What say you, Timbers Alliance, suckers if teet?

Uh. Um. ECNL Sux!!!