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    I just heard ma youth soccer voted yesterday to go grade based age cutoffs in the fall, not calendar year. Anyone know anything about this??

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    I just heard ma youth soccer voted yesterday to go grade based age cutoffs in the fall, not calendar year. Anyone know anything about this??
    Good decision if true

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Good decision if true
      Makes way too much sense to be true but please oh please oh please!!!

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        #4
        awh does this mean some kids won't be the biggest on their team anymore?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I just heard ma youth soccer voted yesterday to go grade based age cutoffs in the fall, not calendar year. Anyone know anything about this??
          But wouldn't that just be a delay of a year. Isn't pretty much everyone required to be calendar year by fall 2017?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            awh does this mean some kids won't be the biggest on their team anymore?
            No, there will always be some kids bigger than others.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              But wouldn't that just be a delay of a year. Isn't pretty much everyone required to be calendar year by fall 2017?
              Yes if governed by USYS or US Club ALL clubs must switch by 2017 ... Delaying the inevitable

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Yes if governed by USYS or US Club ALL clubs must switch by 2017 ... Delaying the inevitable
                My daughter is a December kid but quite honestly I don't care either way. However, from everything I've read the verbiage used by US Soccer regarding the birth year change is that it's a 'mandate', 'best practice', and 'should be implemented'. It is not a LAW that can be enforced by US Soccer. So i'm curious why USYS, US Club Soccer, or any other organization feels they have no choice. US Soccer/Tab Ramos claims that “it makes things easier and it gets us on the same calendar with the rest of the world and it becomes easier to identify for U.S. National Teams and everything else when it comes to international soccer.” I'm just not sure why organizations feel they need to make the change when 99% of it's customers will never be considered for US National Teams or play at an international level. As for the other 1%, they are already playing based on birth year.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  My daughter is a December kid but quite honestly I don't care either way. However, from everything I've read the verbiage used by US Soccer regarding the birth year change is that it's a 'mandate', 'best practice', and 'should be implemented'. It is not a LAW that can be enforced by US Soccer. So i'm curious why USYS, US Club Soccer, or any other organization feels they have no choice. US Soccer/Tab Ramos claims that “it makes things easier and it gets us on the same calendar with the rest of the world and it becomes easier to identify for U.S. National Teams and everything else when it comes to international soccer.” I'm just not sure why organizations feel they need to make the change when 99% of it's customers will never be considered for US National Teams or play at an international level. As for the other 1%, they are already playing based on birth year.
                  Ramos is an idiot, that's why.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    My daughter is a December kid but quite honestly I don't care either way. However, from everything I've read the verbiage used by US Soccer regarding the birth year change is that it's a 'mandate', 'best practice', and 'should be implemented'. It is not a LAW that can be enforced by US Soccer. So i'm curious why USYS, US Club Soccer, or any other organization feels they have no choice. US Soccer/Tab Ramos claims that “it makes things easier and it gets us on the same calendar with the rest of the world and it becomes easier to identify for U.S. National Teams and everything else when it comes to international soccer.” I'm just not sure why organizations feel they need to make the change when 99% of it's customers will never be considered for US National Teams or play at an international level. As for the other 1%, they are already playing based on birth year.
                    I believe everyone gets their insurance through those organizations. It may not be "the law" but they could make possibly make an insurance issue out of it if you're having younger kids play up on a regular basis. Besides if your league follows it but you do school year based registration then your teams have to play up a year, probably making them less competitive.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I just heard ma youth soccer voted yesterday to go grade based age cutoffs in the fall, not calendar year. Anyone know anything about this??
                      FUBAR.
                      US youth soccer system

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by unregistered View Post
                        fubar.
                        Us youth soccer system
                        snafu

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I just heard ma youth soccer voted yesterday to go grade based age cutoffs in the fall, not calendar year. Anyone know anything about this??
                          I didn't hear the result of the vote yet, but assuming you heard correctly -->

                          If they voted to stick with a grade-year cutoff, it would be for the 2016-2017 school year. It's a one-year measure that will be done during the transition year before a USYS-wide change in Fall 2017. This is specific to town-based travel leagues (BAYS/MAYS/etc).

                          Clubs are likely switching to a birth-year cutoff (from what I've heard) starting in the fall of 2016.

                          A decision for the 2017-2018 school year for town-based travel leagues would be revisited next year at this time.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I didn't hear the result of the vote yet, but assuming you heard correctly -->

                            If they voted to stick with a grade-year cutoff, it would be for the 2016-2017 school year. It's a one-year measure that will be done during the transition year before a USYS-wide change in Fall 2017. This is specific to town-based travel leagues (BAYS/MAYS/etc).

                            Clubs are likely switching to a birth-year cutoff (from what I've heard) starting in the fall of 2016.

                            A decision for the 2017-2018 school year for town-based travel leagues would be revisited next year at this time.
                            I see yet a new governing body "federation" arising in the future.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I believe everyone gets their insurance through those organizations. It may not be "the law" but they could make possibly make an insurance issue out of it if you're having younger kids play up on a regular basis. Besides if your league follows it but you do school year based registration then your teams have to play up a year, probably making them less competitive.
                              Good point. I think what I'm suggesting though is that couldn't the organizations (leagues, US Youth Soccer, and US Club Soccer) just say 'no thanks' to the mandate by US Soccer? I could be wrong here but my understanding is the insurance for those organizations is not through US Soccer itself. If that is true couldn't they choose to keep things as they are now which is grade year. With the understanding that for the 1% of the players who are identified and selected to play for teams directly affiliated with US Soccer would be required to play by birth year and potentially fall within their insurance.

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