First time doing ODP. When are ODP results published? When are we notified?
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First week of December at the latest. Same time frame last year but some kids were notified a week prior.
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OP Response:
1. Just asking a question - no need to be an ***** and tell me my kid didn't make it. Are you compensating for some inadequacy of your own?
2. Not trying or expecting to make the national team.
3. Why would anyone respond to this who didn't actually have a response to the question?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOP Response:
1. Just asking a question - no need to be an ***** and tell me my kid didn't make it. Are you compensating for some inadequacy of your own?
2. Not trying or expecting to make the national team.
3. Why would anyone respond to this who didn't actually have a response to the question?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'm not responding to your exact question and you might not appreciate my response, but honestly responding with the best intentions. ODP used to have a really good program, but it has gone way down hill over the years and it truly doesn't offer anything more than what some programs can offer you. And I'm not saying that DAP or something similar is the answer either. If you find a really good club, with good training, that will get your kids to some of the better tournaments, then you will do fine. I had one kid in ODP for a bit, but pulled her out because it wasn't offering as much as the club she was on. In fact, I've had 3 kids go to college on scholarships from the visibility they got with their club team. And for a while they played MAPLE and then Region 1, but where also in a lot of tournaments across the country. If you are involved in ODP and feel your kid is getting good training an playing against really good competition, then it might be the right fit for him/her. Just don't let the "olympic" thing fool you. It really isn't for that any more.
You should do ODP because it's an invaluable third party evaluation that is sorely lacking in club soccer these days. The sole purpose of ODP has always been to identify talent. It has always done that exceedingly well. Still does in fact. You use ODP like older parents use the SAT's to figure out where their player fits in the grand scheme of things. It is the only program out there where you get to see how your kid stacks up against kids from other clubs, other states, other regions. You have your kid do it for two years and after that if your are the least bit objective you have a pretty good idea where your kid is going with soccer. It is one of the few resources parents have to help them objectively govern their participation in club soccer. Without it all you have is the Kool-aide your club dispenses.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'll tell the BOTH of you that you are actually quite wrong about ODP because it is NOT a training program and never has been. If you are smart you should care less than nothing about the quality of the training at the local level because it has always sucked. It has never been a difference maker. The only time the actually training done in the ODP program becomes a factor is when you have a kid who is a real standout and needs to grow beyond what is available in their club. For that kid, the training environment that is available at the regional level that can be a significant difference maker. 99% of the players don't need that though and never will. That's not why you should do ODP.
You should do ODP because it's an invaluable third party evaluation that is sorely lacking in club soccer these days. The sole purpose of ODP has always been to identify talent. It has always done that exceedingly well. Still does in fact. You use ODP like older parents use the SAT's to figure out where their player fits in the grand scheme of things. It is the only program out there where you get to see how your kid stacks up against kids from other clubs, other states, other regions. You have your kid do it for two years and after that if your are the least bit objective you have a pretty good idea where your kid is going with soccer. It is one of the few resources parents have to help them objectively govern their participation in club soccer. Without it all you have is the Kool-aide your club dispenses.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'll tell the BOTH of you that you are actually quite wrong about ODP because it is NOT a training program and never has been. If you are smart you should care less than nothing about the quality of the training at the local level because it has always sucked. It has never been a difference maker. The only time the actually training done in the ODP program becomes a factor is when you have a kid who is a real standout and needs to grow beyond what is available in their club. For that kid, the training environment that is available at the regional level that can be a significant difference maker. 99% of the players don't need that though and never will. That's not why you should do ODP.
You should do ODP because it's an invaluable third party evaluation that is sorely lacking in club soccer these days. The sole purpose of ODP has always been to identify talent. It has always done that exceedingly well. Still does in fact. You use ODP like older parents use the SAT's to figure out where their player fits in the grand scheme of things. It is the only program out there where you get to see how your kid stacks up against kids from other clubs, other states, other regions. You have your kid do it for two years and after that if your are the least bit objective you have a pretty good idea where your kid is going with soccer. It is one of the few resources parents have to help them objectively govern their participation in club soccer. Without it all you have is the Kool-aide your club dispenses.
You see how your kid stacks up against the players who are THERE. Many top players don't do ODP any longer. Fact - they're all DAP and ECNL. Also, while I don't think ODP sells itself this way many parents I've talked to have said "well it's extra touches with different coaches." In other words they look at it as extra training. I've advocated that unless you really think your kid is top notch I'd save your $$$ and pay for training elsewhere. It's useful only as an ID vehicle especially if you can go far up the line.
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