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    57% say only kids who win should get trophies

    I maybe making a mistake putting this here and not in the politics section, but here goes.....

    "The*latest Reason-Rupe poll*finds that when it comes to kids and their trophies, 57 percent of Americans think only the winning players should receive them. Another 40 percent say all kids on a sport team should receive a trophy for their participation.The desire for “every kid to get a trophy” strongly correlates with political beliefs. Fully 66 percent of Republicans want only the kids who win to receive trophies, while 31 percent say all kids on the team should receive them. In contrast, Democrats are evenly divided with 48 percent who say all kids, and another 48 percent who say only the winners should receive a trophy."

    http://reason.com/poll/2014/08/19/57...y-only-kids-wh

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    I maybe making a mistake putting this here and not in the politics section, but here goes.....

    "The*latest Reason-Rupe poll*finds that when it comes to kids and their trophies, 57 percent of Americans think only the winning players should receive them. Another 40 percent say all kids on a sport team should receive a trophy for their participation.The desire for “every kid to get a trophy” strongly correlates with political beliefs. Fully 66 percent of Republicans want only the kids who win to receive trophies, while 31 percent say all kids on the team should receive them. In contrast, Democrats are evenly divided with 48 percent who say all kids, and another 48 percent who say only the winners should receive a trophy."

    http://reason.com/poll/2014/08/19/57...y-only-kids-wh

    While I do not dispute the findings, I think the poll itself is seriously flawed. There is a huge difference between a bunch of 6 year olds getting a participation trophy vs awarding them at 12 or 14 where winning is the goal.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      While I do not dispute the findings, I think the poll itself is seriously flawed. There is a huge difference between a bunch of 6 year olds getting a participation trophy vs awarding them at 12 or 14 where winning is the goal.
      Why? They all have feelings, don't they? I think Mr. Holder would find a disparate impact in the awarding of trophies to winners only. You have been warned.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I maybe making a mistake putting this here and not in the politics section, but here goes.....

        "The*latest Reason-Rupe poll*finds that when it comes to kids and their trophies, 57 percent of Americans think only the winning players should receive them. Another 40 percent say all kids on a sport team should receive a trophy for their participation.The desire for “every kid to get a trophy” strongly correlates with political beliefs. Fully 66 percent of Republicans want only the kids who win to receive trophies, while 31 percent say all kids on the team should receive them. In contrast, Democrats are evenly divided with 48 percent who say all kids, and another 48 percent who say only the winners should receive a trophy."

        http://reason.com/poll/2014/08/19/57...y-only-kids-wh
        We don't need anymore polls or studies to know what Democrats are all about. You didn't build that and I'm gonna get me mines. Take take take.

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          #5
          I say do away with all the trophies. Let the little buggers unionize and get some real cash for playing.

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            #6
            Great. Yet another thread for white male conservatives to rant about something that ranks up there with the biggest made-up issues on the site (and in the country).

            Does anyone really care if 8 year old kids or disabled youth in the Special Olympics get a participation medal? Do you really believe that is bringing the country to its ruin?

            Is anyone going to seriously argue that we don't do a good enough job separating winners from losers? We hear every day here about the rare D1 winners, and the rare academic winners. We still crown champions don't we?

            This thread is trolling at its worst.

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              #7
              "Support for participation trophies declines with income, education and age. For instance, a majority (55%) of those making less than $30,000 a year want all kids to get trophies and 42 percent want only the winning players to receive them. In contrast, among those making $90,000 a year or more, 72 percent want only the winner to receive trophies, while 26 percent favor participation trophies.Those with high school degrees or less are divided 49 to 48 in favor of participation trophies. But 67 percent of college graduates support only winners getting trophies, while 29 percent want all kids to get one."

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                "Support for participation trophies declines with income, education and age. For instance, a majority (55%) of those making less than $30,000 a year want all kids to get trophies and 42 percent want only the winning players to receive them. In contrast, among those making $90,000 a year or more, 72 percent want only the winner to receive trophies, while 26 percent favor participation trophies.Those with high school degrees or less are divided 49 to 48 in favor of participation trophies. But 67 percent of college graduates support only winners getting trophies, while 29 percent want all kids to get one."
                so participation trophies are dumb...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  "Support for participation trophies declines with income, education and age. For instance, a majority (55%) of those making less than $30,000 a year want all kids to get trophies and 42 percent want only the winning players to receive them. In contrast, among those making $90,000 a year or more, 72 percent want only the winner to receive trophies, while 26 percent favor participation trophies.Those with high school degrees or less are divided 49 to 48 in favor of participation trophies. But 67 percent of college graduates support only winners getting trophies, while 29 percent want all kids to get one."
                  So people who are successful think only successful people should get trophies. What a surprise.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    so participation trophies are dumb...
                    In a word, Yes.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      So people who are successful think only successful people should get trophies. What a surprise.
                      ... Or people who have been invested in think they own they success and deserve the prize more then others

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                        #12
                        I think teams that bring in out of state players to win a game should get trophies. Those that play by unspoken rules or within the spirit of the game should get participant medals

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                          #13
                          IMO the value of trophies have declined because of the idea that "everyone wins a trophy", but more importantly the kids are not fooled by it. I don't have a problem with participation medals for UYoung players, but save the trophies for high school aged players. At that point, winning a trophy actually starts to have meaning, especially for the kids.

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                            #14
                            "The*latest Reason-Rupe poll*finds that when it comes to kids and their trophies, 57 percent of Americans think only the winning players should receive them. Another 40 percent say all kids on a sport team should receive a trophy for their participation.The desire for “every kid to get a trophy” strongly correlates with political beliefs. Fully 66 percent of Republicans want only the kids who win to receive trophies, while 31 percent say all kids on the team should receive them. In contrast, Democrats are evenly divided with 48 percent who say all kids, and another 48 percent who say only the winners should receive a trophy."

                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            So people who are successful think only successful people should get trophies. What a surprise.

                            Instead of taking pokes at a study and shooting from the hip, why don't you think about the topic first. First ask what is the purpose of participation trophies and what is the purpose of awarding the winner only? What are the goals of these trophies?
                            Keep in mind that these can be answered differently depending on your position. Personally, I don't see the need for 'participation trophies' at all, especially at the older ages. If the goal of these trophies is to get the kids to continue participating in the sport then I would ask 'when does it stop?'. At some point, you might realize that your child is simply not interested, whether they are on the winning team or not. Therefore, I would do away with the trophies and do something simpler like buy an ice cream or have a pizza party at the end of the season. Afterall, what do you think happens with all these trophies after a couple of years?
                            If the purpose of the trophy is to make all the little kids feel good about themselves so that they build a better self-esteem, then, again, get rid of the trophies and give your kid a hug and be a better parent. This is where coaching becomes important. A trophy is not going to build self-esteem. Encouragement and improvement will. Opportunity to play will.

                            Why do we give the winners a trophy? Simple. They won. When everyone gets the same trophy, then what is the importance or reward for winning? Now you might make the similar claim that there is no reason to give the winner a trophy and that they should feel good about it inside. Winners know they won and losers know they did not. The goal is to win so why give any reward. Winning is reward enough. I can see that point and don't disagree with it. If this is the case, then get rid of all trophies. However, when all see a reward for winning there is a desire to win. Once you have figured out how to create a desire to win, then you create a drive to improve oneself and the team so that you can have a winning attitude and team. While winning may not be the most important thing, striving to be better with goals in mind and sight is, in my opinion, important for society to elevate itself. If you want to form a great society then the winners, should ultimately help to improve the non-winners (I didn't want to say losers.....very negative word) to become better. Now you have society moving upward and forward to gether, but realizing that somone won and someone did not.

                            If this is not important then you should be happy with mediocrity where everyone gets the same thing. While I don't want to claim that this reflects one political party of the other, but one has to see how you can interpret along party lines.

                            As for the comment that 'successful people think successful people should get trophies'....well yes. While I don't known if you are supportive or sarcastic about this concept, but I do think that this is correct, but don't think that this necessarily falls on any political party or socio-economic group. If the garbage man's kid is the best on the field or fastest on the track then they walk away with the trophy while the kid from Wellesley, who might have lost, gets nothing. This concept exists throughout all layers of society and all throughout high school and college sports. If you love the sport then participation is enough reward to continue to play. If you want to win, but didn't, then seeing a prize (in someone else's hand) helps you to want to be better.

                            Striving toward something is a good thing. Sitting around and waiting for it to be handed to you for free does not create drive. While a benevolent society will help keep the group afloat with basic needs, the stronger group will have full participation in the work to allow all to contribute toward the success.

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                              #15
                              Does somebody think this is really an issue in youth soccer in MA? Maybe this exists in other sports, but I havent seen it with soccer here. My kids have been playing competitive town and club soccer for the past 8 years or so, and as far as I know, the only trophies/medals they've ever gotten is when their team comes in first or, in some instances, second (a runner-up trophy or a silver medal). I havent seen "participation" trophies in any tournament since maybe the U8 or U9 level--and even then it was at a town-level tournament--not a real one.

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