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**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 06:30 AM

Ah, didn't you just know you'd be waking up to something special this Sunday morning?

Very bizarre logic. Parents, you don't need ECNL, but you do need an extremely elite club that makes the national championship game in 3 different age groups. Relief for everyone!

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Ah, didn't you just know you'd be waking up to something special this Sunday morning?

Very bizarre logic. Parents, you don't need ECNL, but you do need an extremely elite club that makes the national championship game in 3 different age groups. Relief for everyone!

Not the OP....and I don't have a daughter either, but it is clear that the OP insulted your self awarded intelligence. The OP is dead on accurate, as is part ofbyor response. Aside from the obvious good training and practice time for development, all you need thereafter is the exposure.....and, yes, it does not require the ECNL. Sorry to burst your bubble.

With regard to exposure, I would be interested in a statistic/data comparing the number of division 1,2,3, pro,and national team coaches that show up to particular events. How many such coaches were at Disney? How many were at the national games in Maryland.....and how many show up to ECNL games?

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 06:54 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Not the OP....and I don't have a daughter either, but it is clear that the OP insulted your self awarded intelligence. The OP is dead on accurate, as is part ofbyor response. Aside from the obvious good training and practice time for development, all you need thereafter is the exposure.....and, yes, it does not require the ECNL. Sorry to burst your bubble.

With regard to exposure, I would be interested in a statistic/data comparing the number of division 1,2,3, pro,and national team coaches that show up to particular events. How many such coaches were at Disney? How many were at the national games in Maryland.....and how many show up to ECNL games?

Yeah, you don't have a daughter.

The OP is sending a very distorted message, all in the name of scoring a point against ECNL. One could say this is actually arguing for ECNL if the knocks are going to come by naming all of the non-ECNL clubs that are most like ECNL clubs. And your exposue argument is ridiculous. Sure, just pick a club that you know is going to make the national finals and he or she will be seen by coaches, LOL. And you talk about "good training and practice time for development" as though that is nothing.

How about this? Pick the best club that matches your ability and offers ways to maximize that ability regardless of league affiliation.

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 06:58 AM

Guess what folks? The plan (again) for today is that we are going to talk about ECNL all day and how unnecessary and irrelevant it is, and while doing so we are going to make sure we don't deal with why we keep obsessionally talking about something that is so obviously irrelevant. And then we will do the same thing the next day, and the next, and the next, etc, etc.

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Guess what folks? The plan (again) for today is that we are going to talk about ECNL all day and how unnecessary and irrelevant it is, and while doing so we are going to make sure we don't deal with why we keep obsessionally talking about something that is so obviously irrelevant. And then we will do the same thing the next day, and the next, and the next, etc, etc.

Exactly! If you don't like it, don't read it.

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Not the OP....and I don't have a daughter either, but it is clear that the OP insulted your self awarded intelligence. The OP is dead on accurate, as is part ofbyor response. Aside from the obvious good training and practice time for development, all you need thereafter is the exposure.....and, yes, it does not require the ECNL. Sorry to burst your bubble.

With regard to exposure, I would be interested in a statistic/data comparing the number of division 1,2,3, pro,and national team coaches that show up to particular events. How many such coaches were at Disney? How many were at the national games in Maryland.....and how many show up to ECNL games?

Notice that the OP chose a U19 as his example. When is the last time anyone followed the fortunes of a U19 team? So why did he chose them as his example?

ECNL was launched in 2009/10 with 40 clubs. These VSA and Chicago teams were U15 at that time. It's ridiculous to think that teams of that era, who did not have access to ECNL, offered no path to college. That's like saying you don't need a college degree to find a job today because high school graduates in 1950 didn't need one.

ECNL is already a critical ingredient to college preparation and is getting increasingly indispensable each year. If anyone wants to take comfort in the story of a USYS team of 19 year olds that is a perennial contestant in the national championship... that's your prerogative. But it sounds more like after-the-fact justification by the parent of a kid who was cut or realizes now that they mad a bad decision.

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Guess what folks? The plan (again) for today is that we are going to talk about ECNL all day and how unnecessary and irrelevant it is, and while doing so we are going to make sure we don't deal with why we keep obsessionally talking about something that is so obviously irrelevant. And then we will do the same thing the next day, and the next, and the next, etc, etc.

Spot on.
The obsession over how hard the anti-ECNL crowd protests suggests just how relevant the league remains, much to their dismay.

The lady doth protest too much, me thinks............

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Not the OP....and I don't have a daughter either, but it is clear that the OP insulted your self awarded intelligence. The OP is dead on accurate, as is part ofbyor response. Aside from the obvious good training and practice time for development, all you need thereafter is the exposure.....and, yes, it does not require the ECNL. Sorry to burst your bubble.

With regard to exposure, I would be interested in a statistic/data comparing the number of division 1,2,3, pro,and national team coaches that show up to particular events. How many such coaches were at Disney? How many were at the national games in Maryland.....and how many show up to ECNL games?

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Bluto! Bluto! Bluto!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Notice that the OP chose a U19 as his example. When is the last time anyone followed the fortunes of a U19 team? So why did he chose them as his example?

ECNL was launched in 2009/10 with 40 clubs. These VSA and Chicago teams were U15 at that time. It's ridiculous to think that teams of that era, who did not have access to ECNL, offered no path to college. That's like saying you don't need a college degree to find a job today because high school graduates in 1950 didn't need one.

ECNL is already a critical ingredient to college preparation and is getting increasingly indispensable each year. If anyone wants to take comfort in the story of a USYS team of 19 year olds that is a perennial contestant in the national championship... that's your prerogative. But it sounds more like after-the-fact justification by the parent of a kid who was cut or realizes now that they mad a bad decision.

ha ha ha
you're making the OP's point. The point is, ECNL is not the only avenue for kids to play in college. Much to the dismay of the ECNL koolaid drinkers. Of course, a high level team will attarct coaches, even if they are not at an ECNL event. Thanks for reinforcing the argument

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Notice that the OP chose a U19 as his example. When is the last time anyone followed the fortunes of a U19 team? So why did he chose them as his example?

ECNL was launched in 2009/10 with 40 clubs. These VSA and Chicago teams were U15 at that time. It's ridiculous to think that teams of that era, who did not have access to ECNL, offered no path to college. That's like saying you don't need a college degree to find a job today because high school graduates in 1950 didn't need one.

ECNL is already a critical ingredient to college preparation and is getting increasingly indispensable each year. If anyone wants to take comfort in the story of a USYS team of 19 year olds that is a perennial contestant in the national championship... that's your prerogative. But it sounds more like after-the-fact justification by the parent of a kid who was cut or realizes now that they mad a bad decision.

Ironic that you admit that going to National Championships is a good thing. Similar to a particular club from MA, no?

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

ha ha ha
you're making the OP's point. The point is, ECNL is not the only avenue for kids to play in college. Much to the dismay of the ECNL koolaid drinkers. Of course, a high level team will attarct coaches, even if they are not at an ECNL event. Thanks for reinforcing the argument

Bluto! Bluto! Bluto!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Bluto! Bluto! Bluto!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

Anyone else struggling to connect the dots between this thread and this classic movie scene?

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 08:00 AM

Could you NEFC folks stop being so insecure and just enjoy your success?

**Unregistered** · 07-27-2014, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

Could you NEFC folks stop being so insecure and just enjoy your success?

Insecurity is deeply ingrained in NEFC's collective psyche. Apparently, they find posting incessantly on TS to be therapeutic, but based on the evidence, it could take several more years for them to work through it.

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