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    Do Clubs have soccer metrics that measure effectiveness of their paid DOCs?

    We see Club DOCs are becoming more comfortable with decisions that either make or break teams, players, and coaches. There are hundreds of threads in this forum that show that DOCs have made more breaking than making. Yes, there are other stakeholders in this process but the question is, who needs to evaluate effectiveness of DOCs? Are there ant critical factors in place that hold DOCs accountable for the success of their Club that pays and provides them different streams of income?

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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    We see Club DOCs are becoming more comfortable with decisions that either make or break teams, players, and coaches. There are hundreds of threads in this forum that show that DOCs have made more breaking than making. Yes, there are other stakeholders in this process but the question is, who needs to evaluate effectiveness of DOCs? Are there ant critical factors in place that hold DOCs accountable for the success of their Club that pays and provides them different streams of income?
    These are interesting questions for clubs to consider. In today's age every employee (teacher, lawyer,..) or CEO is evaluated, but you're right when you suggest the DOC/ED is often the top dog with few checks or balances. Busy volunteer boards often stay out of soccer decisions and rubber stamp DOC decisions. As a parent, DOCs should be measured and compensated for the people and tasks responsible, and how successful they are with the people and tasks. The trend is for clubs to have many directors and each should be rewarded for his/her varying level of responsibilities and time. There are so many factors that can be discussed on how to measure success and it will be very different for clubs based on size, structure, etc.., but agree a DOC must be held accountable and have fair compensation based on measurable results.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      These are interesting questions for clubs to consider. In today's age every employee (teacher, lawyer,..) or CEO is evaluated, but you're right when you suggest the DOC/ED is often the top dog with few checks or balances. Busy volunteer boards often stay out of soccer decisions and rubber stamp DOC decisions. As a parent, DOCs should be measured and compensated for the people and tasks responsible, and how successful they are with the people and tasks. The trend is for clubs to have many directors and each should be rewarded for his/her varying level of responsibilities and time. There are so many factors that can be discussed on how to measure success and it will be very different for clubs based on size, structure, etc.., but agree a DOC must be held accountable and have fair compensation based on measurable results.
      The only metrics used, and the only ones that matters to any club, are player retention & growth of membership. Most DOC's are paid a bonus based on membership number growth abobe baseline.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The only metrics used, and the only ones that matters to any club, are player retention & growth of membership. Most DOC's are paid a bonus based on membership number growth abobe baseline.
        Sometimes the Doc is nothing but a puppet , the board of directors are the ones calling the shots especially when they are $$ I can mention a few clubs in south fl for example

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Sometimes the Doc is nothing but a puppet , the board of directors are the ones calling the shots especially when they are $$ I can mention a few clubs in south fl for example
          DOC's don't know squat about handling money. Let them manage soccer teams and players. That's what they're good at. There's always a parent on the Board that knows how to handle finances. The problems happens when the DOC's start having too many hands in the cookie jar.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            DOC's don't know squat about handling money. Let them manage soccer teams and players. That's what they're good at. There's always a parent on the Board that knows how to handle finances. The problems happens when the DOC's start having too many hands in the cookie jar.
            Ha, that means accountability at a DOC level... Some sort of measure or feedback should be allowed from the parents... Most of then are not good listeners either which makes being a good leader difficult.

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              #7
              you can tell how good the club is by the car the DOC/ED drive

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                These are interesting questions for clubs to consider. In today's age every employee (teacher, lawyer,..) or CEO is evaluated, but you're right when you suggest the DOC/ED is often the top dog with few checks or balances. Busy volunteer boards often stay out of soccer decisions and rubber stamp DOC decisions. As a parent, DOCs should be measured and compensated for the people and tasks responsible, and how successful they are with the people and tasks. The trend is for clubs to have many directors and each should be rewarded for his/her varying level of responsibilities and time. There are so many factors that can be discussed on how to measure success and it will be very different for clubs based on size, structure, etc.., but agree a DOC must be held accountable and have fair compensation based on measurable results.
                This is a very good topic...and many good questions are already brought up in this thread; and many others need to be addressed and discussed. Fully agreed that a DOC must be held accountable for both tangible and intangible results.

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                  #9
                  There should be but we haven't been at a club where there seems to be accountability.

                  To me the key measure would be player retention. But what do I know.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    There should be but we haven't been at a club where there seems to be accountability.

                    To me the key measure would be player retention. But what do I know.
                    Player retention is important for survival. However, to me the key measure for any DOC should be player and coach development.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Player retention is important for survival. However, to me the key measure for any DOC should be player and coach development.
                      You win!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Player retention is important for survival. However, to me the key measure for any DOC should be player and coach development.
                        That is very subjective. How do you measure it...by the win column? When the win column is the measure the development goes out the door.

                        Players stay when they are happy and feel like they are developing. When parents see their kids happy and improving they aren't out there looking for other options.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          That is very subjective. How do you measure it...by the win column? When the win column is the measure the development goes out the door.

                          Players stay when they are happy and feel like they are developing. When parents see their kids happy and improving they aren't out there looking for other options.
                          So true. Not much advice on how clubs are measuring DOC effectiveness, so does that mean not many do? Old fashioned surveys can get satisfaction/subjective feedback. Board members could bring surveys and pencils for after practice for the kids to complete. For every kid that does anonymous survey, the kid gets a Popsicle or coupon for concession stand. If parent does anonymous parent survey via club website, they will automatically get sent a concession coupon to print? This way can evaluate coaches and club effectiveness. Also, look at club retention and new growth, understanding market and location factors.

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                            #14
                            Have coaches complete survey on Directors too. Boards have used NSCAA Club Standards Project and their consultants to assess. My list is long and here are just a few of the qualities a DOC should possess: strong presence at fields/events, open, clear vision, sets club/community atmosphere, communicates with all in system and keeps on same page, leads coaches, supportive, patient, interested in kids first, forward thinker, new ideas, DOC diploma and can develop players and coaches, administrative skills, organized, ..

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              The only metrics used, and the only ones that matters to any club, are player retention & growth of membership. Most DOC's are paid a bonus based on membership number growth abobe baseline.
                              While I agree with player retention, growth of membership may or may not be a desirable goal if there are insufficient resources (coaches and field space) to maintain a high level of training for the players and teams that are already in place.


                              Too many DOCs sacrifice quality in the pursuit of quantity. Quantity should be the focus of the local rec leagues, not the competitive programs.

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