I am curious and want to understand the different leagues that all the teams play in. I know there is CJSA, ECNL, NPL, etc but can those that are informed on the matter please fill me in. What leagues are most competitive and who plays where? What is the difference between the leagues, etc? Thank you in advance!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI am curious and want to understand the different leagues that all the teams play in. I know there is CJSA, ECNL, NPL, etc but can those that are informed on the matter please fill me in. What leagues are most competitive and who plays where? What is the difference between the leagues, etc? Thank you in advance!
- ECNL (US Club Soccer)- the best girls clubs play in this league, only two CT clubs play in it. one of them shouldn't be in the league
- NYCSL- NPL (US Club Soccer)- 2nd best league, for the teams seeking promotion into the ECNL
- CJSA (USYSA)- 3rd rung league, poorly organized, little legitimacy,
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIn order of competitiveness:
- ECNL (US Club Soccer)- the best girls clubs play in this league, only two CT clubs play in it. one of them shouldn't be in the league
- NYCSL- NPL (US Club Soccer)- 2nd best league, for the teams seeking promotion into the ECNL
- CJSA (USYSA)- 3rd rung league, poorly organized, little legitimacy,
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI thought Beachside is in DAP and CJSA elite league. They still do state cup
They also play premier: premier teams can play in-state (CJSA) or out of state (EDP/NYCSL/ECNL) or both. In order to play state cup you have to play in some kind of state bracket. In an last-ditch effort to keep teams in-state CJSA created the "Elite" bracket. All it has done is keep some teams still playing for cup bragging rights, but they still play the majority of their games out of state in other leagues.
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So NPL incudes both NYCSL AND EDP? Why is there two different leagues under NPL if it comes out of US Club Soccer and ECNL is in that but not in NPL?
Sorry for confusion just trying to figure this out
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo NPL incudes both NYCSL AND EDP? Why is there two different leagues under NPL if it comes out of US Club Soccer and ECNL is in that but not in NPL?
Sorry for confusion just trying to figure this out
ECNL
NYCSL
EDP
in that order. NYCSL is more organized in terms of scheduling and clubs that have teams at most ages. EDP is more like CJSA where they will accept clubs that only have a few teams.
Think of NPL as champions league. in the champions League you have leagues from all over Europe.
So under the NPL banner you have EDP, NYCSL and NEP in this area.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you are asking about Girls:
ECNL
NYCSL
EDP
in that order. NYCSL is more organized in terms of scheduling and clubs that have teams at most ages. EDP is more like CJSA where they will accept clubs that only have a few teams.
Think of NPL as champions league. in the champions League you have leagues from all over Europe.
So under the NPL banner you have EDP, NYCSL and NEP in this area.
ECNL is totally separate than the other 2 and have their own national championship.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you are asking about Girls:
ECNL
NYCSL
EDP
in that order. NYCSL is more organized in terms of scheduling and clubs that have teams at most ages. EDP is more like CJSA where they will accept clubs that only have a few teams.
Think of NPL as champions league. in the champions League you have leagues from all over Europe.
So under the NPL banner you have EDP, NYCSL and NEP in this area.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you are asking about Girls:
ECNL
NYCSL
EDP
in that order. NYCSL is more organized in terms of scheduling and clubs that have teams at most ages. EDP is more like CJSA where they will accept clubs that only have a few teams.
Think of NPL as champions league. in the champions League you have leagues from all over Europe.
So under the NPL banner you have EDP, NYCSL and NEP in this area.
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In looking at these leagues you may want to do a cost/benefit analysis. One friend has a daughter on the CFCU U17 team. She is number 2 on the depth chart for her position behind AS and gets almost no playing time. She goes to all the tournaments but even being on the best ECNL team in Connecticut she has gotten no bites from any D1 school. Ditto for another one of my friends whose HS junior is on the S+ NPL team. They trot all over the country to showcases and she too has not had a single bite from a D1 coach. You are going to be be spending a lot of money on these ventures. What do you honestly expect out of your kid's soccer playing? And unless your kid is starting ECNL on a consistent basis, a top level D1 program is probably not in the cards.
Both of these girls will not even consider D2 or D3. That's too bad.
If your goal is to make your HS varsity team, I would suggest that a top level CJSA club team would probably be sufficient to get the job done, probably not as a Freshman but most likely by junior year. It all depends what the goal is and can is reasonably be attained.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIn looking at these leagues you may want to do a cost/benefit analysis. One friend has a daughter on the CFCU U17 team. She is number 2 on the depth chart for her position behind AS and gets almost no playing time. She goes to all the tournaments but even being on the best ECNL team in Connecticut she has gotten no bites from any D1 school. Ditto for another one of my friends whose HS junior is on the S+ NPL team. They trot all over the country to showcases and she too has not had a single bite from a D1 coach. You are going to be be spending a lot of money on these ventures. What do you honestly expect out of your kid's soccer playing? And unless your kid is starting ECNL on a consistent basis, a top level D1 program is probably not in the cards.
Both of these girls will not even consider D2 or D3. That's too bad.
If your goal is to make your HS varsity team, I would suggest that a top level CJSA club team would probably be sufficient to get the job done, probably not as a Freshman but most likely by junior year. It all depends what the goal is and can is reasonably be attained.
Acceptance lists are generally impressive at the top clubs. Obviously not every player is on those lists. But some are very unrealistic thinking colleges will be knocking down the door just because a kid plays ECNL/DAP. It still takes a great deal of effort on the part of players/families to get coaches looking. And many are disappointed when they see the supposed scholarship bonanza is much smaller than they expected. If you think your player will be #15-25 on the bench then you have to question whether or not it is worth it. Unfortunately many parents aren't realistic about where their child fits in the grand scheme of things.
It's too bad your acquaintances won't look at D2-D3 because they really could have an impact there plus get a great education. We already have one playing D3 and it was absolutely the right place for him - excellent athlete but an engineering nerd and is thriving academically in college. Most likely he would have been riding the pines at some of the D1s he considered. Playing is a bonus, but if he hadn't played that is fine too. In the long run what they do in the classroom, internships, etc. is far more important. No one in my clan is going pro.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI completely agree that players/families need to realistically assess long term goals, etc. when deciding what level to play at. Playing at the highest level requires a great deal of commitment. Not many 14+ year olds have a clue yet about what kind of college they want to attend, etc. let alone whether or not they want to play college soccer. A big factor should simply be do you want to play at the top, 2nd level, 3rd level etc. in terms of training, competition, etc.? Often times playing high school plus a good premier team is an excellent fit.
Acceptance lists are generally impressive at the top clubs. Obviously not every player is on those lists. But some are very unrealistic thinking colleges will be knocking down the door just because a kid plays ECNL/DAP. It still takes a great deal of effort on the part of players/families to get coaches looking. And many are disappointed when they see the supposed scholarship bonanza is much smaller than they expected. If you think your player will be #15-25 on the bench then you have to question whether or not it is worth it. Unfortunately many parents aren't realistic about where their child fits in the grand scheme of things.
It's too bad your acquaintances won't look at D2-D3 because they really could have an impact there plus get a great education. We already have one playing D3 and it was absolutely the right place for him - excellent athlete but an engineering nerd and is thriving academically in college. Most likely he would have been riding the pines at some of the D1s he considered. Playing is a bonus, but if he hadn't played that is fine too. In the long run what they do in the classroom, internships, etc. is far more important. No one in my clan is going pro.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI completely agree that players/families need to realistically assess long term goals, etc. when deciding what level to play at. Playing at the highest level requires a great deal of commitment. Not many 14+ year olds have a clue yet about what kind of college they want to attend, etc. let alone whether or not they want to play college soccer. A big factor should simply be do you want to play at the top, 2nd level, 3rd level etc. in terms of training, competition, etc.? Often times playing high school plus a good premier team is an excellent fit.
Acceptance lists are generally impressive at the top clubs. Obviously not every player is on those lists. But some are very unrealistic thinking colleges will be knocking down the door just because a kid plays ECNL/DAP. It still takes a great deal of effort on the part of players/families to get coaches looking. And many are disappointed when they see the supposed scholarship bonanza is much smaller than they expected. If you think your player will be #15-25 on the bench then you have to question whether or not it is worth it. Unfortunately many parents aren't realistic about where their child fits in the grand scheme of things.
It's too bad your acquaintances won't look at D2-D3 because they really could have an impact there plus get a great education. We already have one playing D3 and it was absolutely the right place for him - excellent athlete but an engineering nerd and is thriving academically in college. Most likely he would have been riding the pines at some of the D1s he considered. Playing is a bonus, but if he hadn't played that is fine too. In the long run what they do in the classroom, internships, etc. is far more important. No one in my clan is going pro.
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