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    Oregon State Commitment

    Oregon native Alejandro Segovia has committed to Oregon State for 2014. Congrats Alejandro! If interested you can read about his decision here: http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-...ac-12_aid32781

    #2
    That's great for Alex. OSU is getting a good kid and a good player. When he's on, he's as good as anybody around. I hope he does well.

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      #3
      I think it is great to see the number of Boys commits this year at 4 year programs of all levels for players from the academy and club ball. A good year for boys!

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I think it is great to see the number of Boys commits this year at 4 year programs of all levels for players from the academy and club ball. A good year for boys!

        too bad, wish he had been able to sign a pro-contract rather than waste 4 years in college training 1/2 time at best. good player and person but failed by our system.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          too bad, wish he had been able to sign a pro-contract rather than waste 4 years in college training 1/2 time at best. good player and person but failed by our system.
          Obviously you are kidding. College soccer D1 soccer major success.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            too bad, wish he had been able to sign a pro-contract rather than waste 4 years in college training 1/2 time at best. good player and person but failed by our system.
            The ultimate goal for a lot of these kids should be to get a good quality education. Not many people that try to go pro instead of college are happy with that choice, unless they are the in the top .05%.

            Good for this kid!

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              #7
              Hmmm....sign a pro contract and make what $40k a year for a couple of years. Or go to a good school and get a degree that will serve him well the rest of his life, plus the great four years of college. I think the system served him very well.

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                #8
                I don't know about you, but college was pure heaven. Fun to the highest degree. Plus great lifelong friendships. And the ability to make a great living.

                College would be a huge success to me.

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                  #9
                  I am not kidding in the least. College is nice. I went and contined to grad school and have made up to 90k perbyear for a number of years.

                  But I also understand that playing in college is detrimental to playing pro.

                  This kid has a legit shot at making it in the pro ranks but this choice will hinder that. Plus he won't be on a full scholarship so he will leave with student loan debt.

                  If his goal is to get an education why even play in college.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I am not kidding in the least. College is nice. I went and contined to grad school and have made up to 90k perbyear for a number of years.

                    But I also understand that playing in college is detrimental to playing pro.

                    This kid has a legit shot at making it in the pro ranks but this choice will hinder that. Plus he won't be on a full scholarship so he will leave with student loan debt.

                    If his goal is to get an education why even play in college.
                    How do you know he didn't get a full ride? I heard differently.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I am not kidding in the least. College is nice. I went and contined to grad school and have made up to 90k perbyear for a number of years.

                      But I also understand that playing in college is detrimental to playing pro.

                      This kid has a legit shot at making it in the pro ranks but this choice will hinder that. Plus he won't be on a full scholarship so he will leave with student loan debt.

                      If his goal is to get an education why even play in college.
                      It's a huge step from the academy to college, and an even bigger step from there to the pros. I suspect only a few academy players each year will be highly successful at the college level. Successful moves to the pros will be even fewer and farther between. At this stage playing in college is almost always the best option available to all but a handful of players across the entire academy program (all 80 some odd teams). Playing college sports and getting an education are not mutually exclusive. In fact, they are often mutually beneficial with the connections developed through sports providing lifetime benefit. There really isn't any other place for players to go other than college unless they are truly extraordinary. For example, Alex's former teammate Rubio.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        It's a huge step from the academy to college, and an even bigger step from there to the pros. I suspect only a few academy players each year will be highly successful at the college level. Successful moves to the pros will be even fewer and farther between. At this stage playing in college is almost always the best option available to all but a handful of players across the entire academy program (all 80 some odd teams). Playing college sports and getting an education are not mutually exclusive. In fact, they are often mutually beneficial with the connections developed through sports providing lifetime benefit. There really isn't any other place for players to go other than college unless they are truly extraordinary. For example, Alex's former teammate Rubio.
                        This is exactly the attitude that is detrimental to our players. We do have options not enough but some domesticaly and plenty in Europe. Africa and south America. We need to support and encourage our top players not tell them they can't make it and that they should go to school.

                        Alex and a few others are near the level of rubio and could make it and yes I have personal experience as a coach with both players.

                        This connection of college and athletics is crap for those who actually want to play pro.

                        If you just want to extend you career and get an education great but other than that it's redicolus.

                        Look at the other sports as an example. Why do players have to attend one year of college to go nba.

                        What's up with American football and the route to nfl being via college.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          This is exactly the attitude that is detrimental to our players. We do have options not enough but some domesticaly and plenty in Europe. Africa and south America. We need to support and encourage our top players not tell them they can't make it and that they should go to school.

                          Alex and a few others are near the level of rubio and could make it and yes I have personal experience as a coach with both players.

                          This connection of college and athletics is crap for those who actually want to play pro.

                          If you just want to extend you career and get an education great but other than that it's redicolus.

                          Look at the other sports as an example. Why do players have to attend one year of college to go nba.

                          What's up with American football and the route to nfl being via college.
                          There isn't another player in this age group remotely close to Rubio. They might be near when compared to other players, but not near to him when it comes to making it as a professional player.

                          There aren't lots of opportunities in Europe or elsewhere for US players to play professionally. If you're not good enough here, you're not good enough there either. You're doing a kid a tremendous disservice by encouraging unrealistic dreams of playing professional soccer. In soccer, if the pro opportunity hasn't come by 18, it's probably not going to. Heading off to college and playing there isn't going to materially impact the players pro potential because it really wasn't there to begin with. Remember how playing college baseball was the path to nowhere for high school prospects -- not that way anymore.

                          The NBA wants kids to go to college for more than one year because they're too young and immature to come into the league at 18. That and they want to see how they stack up against better competition. Dominating AAU is one thing, dominating in the NCAA is another. They'd also like two years in college so the better ones develop some name recognition before they move to the NBA.

                          Same with football. College develops players to the point where they can actually play at that level (even with pro potential an 18 year old isn't big or strong enough to play in the NFL) and also turns some of the players into marketable stars which has great value. Think Johnny Football.

                          Back to OSU commitments, according to an OSU release Rolando is going to OSU as well and Jamie's transfer from UP was formally announced.

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                            #14
                            Itotally disagree. They have options and should be supported if they want to play pro. They can easily go back to college at a later date if that does not work out and they would be going because they actually want to and not because everyone said it was only option.

                            On the nba if these players are not ready then why the one and done.specifically those that know they will be one and done. Prior to even starting college

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Itotally disagree. They have options and should be supported if they want to play pro. They can easily go back to college at a later date if that does not work out and they would be going because they actually want to and not because everyone said it was only option.

                              On the nba if these players are not ready then why the one and done.specifically those that know they will be one and done. Prior to even starting college
                              What options and who would or should support them? Your statement that they can easily go to college later is wishful thinking. That rarely happens in sports or elsewhere. On one and done, the NBA wants to change that to 2 years and would go more if it could for exactly the reasons given. Plus, you're referring to about 15 players a year total. The ones who take advice like yours forfeit their college eligibility and are literally done when they're 19 or if lucky they get to scuff around in the D league for a couple of years before they're done at 21 when the next crop comes in.

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