Tryouts - Which teams improved?

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They can address this disadvantage if they want to. Maybe that is what they are trying with acquiring Bellevue Rush and starting Eastside FC Bellevue teams.
BTW does anyone know what the actual boundaries are for RCL clubs? How far is Eastside FC allowed to go without encroaching on Crossfire's territory?

I don't believe there are any RCL boundaries; the boundaries come into play when awarding ECNL spots to clubs, and there's no defined boundary, just a rough definition of one club per 'area'. There is already a fair amount of territorial overlap between Snohomish and XF, for example.

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But a kid can play for any club that they want, correct?

Thus, what is the purpose of boundaries?

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I don't believe there are any RCL boundaries; the boundaries come into play when awarding ECNL spots to clubs, and there's no defined boundary, just a rough definition of one club per 'area'. There is already a fair amount of territorial overlap between Snohomish and XF, for example.

There definitely are RCL boundaries! It’s baked into the name REGIONAL Club League. There are assigned and delineated regions that member clubs must respect. The regional territory boundaries were originally established by WYS and served to protect turf for the big clubs s forming the RCL. When the big clubs took over management of the RCL from WYS, they took over the responsibility for enforcing territorial boundaries.

For example, Celtic could never be admitted to RCL because its territory would conflict with SU. Eagleclaw could never be admitted because it would conflict with PacNW. Titans could never be admitted because it conflicts with Crossfire, and the same for Lake Washington Premier. The regional monopolies reinforce the closed nature of RCL.

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Ok, so boundaries are for clubs, but not players. Thus as a player, I can play for any club that I want. Is this correct?

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Correct - players can try out wherever their parent is willing to drive them to.

So now with Eastside starting Bellevue based teams, are they starting to interfere with Crossfire's region? We know the Bellevue teams will not be ECNL or ECRL...so that means they are RCL - and probably low division. Or does this not matter anymore since the big clubs have taken over management not care anymore and the whole thing will just become like WPL soon?

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But a kid can play for any club that they want, correct?

Thus, what is the purpose of boundaries?

The RCL boundaries are the boundaries of the WYS association or associations that the RCL clubs are affiliated with, and the main function of the boundaries is to prevent turf wars over fields access. A secondary function is that the RCL clubs that have good relations with their associations are able to promote their programs through the associations. Players are free to cross the boundaries and have done so for years.

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That answers the question about Eastside Bellevue. EYSA boundaries are here - http://www.eysa.org/AboutEYSA and LWYSA boundaries are here - https://www.lwysa.org/Default.aspx?tabid=718274

So Eastside FC region covers Bellevue, Mercer Island and Issaquah. While Crossfire's region is quite a bit larger, covering Juanita, Kirkland, Redmond, Union Hill, Eastlake. Interesting.

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Ok, the field space makes the
most sense.
great information!!!!

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The RCL boundaries are the boundaries of the WYS association or associations that the RCL clubs are affiliated with, and the main function of the boundaries is to prevent turf wars over fields access. A secondary function is that the RCL clubs that have good relations with their associations are able to promote their programs through the associations. Players are free to cross the boundaries and have done so for years.

Right. so there is a dominance and submission issue going on with our RCL and admitting new clubs. If Celtic were to become part of WYS, SU would naturally want Celtic to be part of a lower league like NPSL and refused to allow Celtic to become part of our RCL. This way, SU would have a perceived higher level league to use to its marketing advantage. Celtic would also now find itself dealing with the big RCL “managing” clubs and WYS in managing conflict over field access. In its current posture, Celtic only needs to deal with the City of Seattle. This is why, for many WPL clubs the idea of joining WYS is a non-starter, because it requires them to submit to the dominance of the big clubs and the regional structures. On the other hand, if a better situation can be negotiated on the front end, that would help RCL grow, diversify and improve.

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Right. so there is a dominance and submission issue going on with our RCL and admitting new clubs. If Celtic were to become part of WYS, SU would naturally want Celtic to be part of a lower league like NPSL and refused to allow Celtic to become part of our RCL. This way, SU would have a perceived higher level league to use to its marketing advantage. Celtic would also now find itself dealing with the big RCL “managing” clubs and WYS in managing conflict over field access. In its current posture, Celtic only needs to deal with the City of Seattle. This is why, for many WPL clubs the idea of joining WYS is a non-starter, because it requires them to submit to the dominance of the big clubs and the regional structures. On the other hand, if a better situation can be negotiated on the front end, that would help RCL grow, diversify and improve.

Or celtic can just enjoy being in WPL.

Why not just form a better league if you dont like WYS/RCL?

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I don't believe there are any RCL boundaries; the boundaries come into play when awarding ECNL spots to clubs, and there's no defined boundary, just a rough definition of one club per 'area'. There is already a fair amount of territorial overlap between Snohomish and XF, for example.

Total myth. There are no geographic boundaries for ECNL. The admission requirements are based on size of club and having teams at every birth year group…aka ability to pay lots of money. From the application: “a club must have existing teams in every ECNL Boys age group.”

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That answers the question about Eastside Bellevue. EYSA boundaries are here - http://www.eysa.org/AboutEYSA and LWYSA boundaries are here - https://www.lwysa.org/Default.aspx?tabid=718274

So Eastside FC region covers Bellevue, Mercer Island and Issaquah. While Crossfire's region is quite a bit larger, covering Juanita, Kirkland, Redmond, Union Hill, Eastlake. Interesting.

Juanita is completely a part of Kirkland since 2011.

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As for tryouts…. Eastside is quick to take players from weak/dissolving clubs/poorly performing teams (Gunners, Valor, PAC…) & place them on their top team over promoting from within. Go elsewhere if you hope to “work your way up” to top team.

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As for tryouts…. Eastside is quick to take players from weak/dissolving clubs/poorly performing teams (Gunners, Valor, PAC…) & place them on their top team over promoting from within. Go elsewhere if you hope to “work your way up” to top team.

Are you referring to the G10 ecnl girls team? Just curious where the Pacnw girls ended up……

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As for tryouts…. Eastside is quick to take players from weak/dissolving clubs/poorly performing teams (Gunners, Valor, PAC…) & place them on their top team over promoting from within. Go elsewhere if you hope to “work your way up” to top team.

As a parent of a child who worked their way from Blue (C) to ECNL at Eastside I couldn't disagree more.