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    #31
    Anyone that leaves their kids at Crossfire after reading that summons is a fool. Protect your kids.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Guest View Post
      Anyone that leaves their kids at Crossfire after reading that summons is a fool. Protect your kids.
      Now that’s funny. The accuser has their kid still at Crossfire.
      Sorry it’s been bad for you but not your child. That says enough !

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        #33
        We've put through 3 kids through crossfire so far, another 1 graduating out into college this year and 2 more that just started at u8. We've had Bernie, Billy, and justi all as coaches and have never witnessed the accusations listed by justi, by us parents or any of our kids or teammates on any of those teams. Cant even start to count how many games and travel tournaments we were around all 3 coaches and will hold judgment until we see the evidence but we do know justi thought and acted like she was the next girls encl director for months and was absolutely livid after finding out she did not get the position.

        Like an earlier post said we wouldn't mind Bernie and Billy being gone or at least not in positions of power and that new leadership would be a positive change in getting more top coaches to head crossfires way. Most coaches that come here end up realizing there's just no room to move up the ranks in the club and we firmly believe it keeps smart talented coaches from making the jump.

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          #34
          The allegations are pretty specific. Justi didn't pull those out of the air. What a nightmare.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            Have you ever heard innocent until proven guilty? So far two different investigations have found no evidence so most are waiting for the facts to come out before making judgement in this.
            Where are you getting that two separate investigations have found no evidence? Safesport supposedly referred the issue to WYS, and neither Safesport nor WYS really has jurisdiction or competence to investigate or make findings on claims of employment discrimination like these (and Safesport investigations often drag on for years and don’t accomplish anything as in the gymnastics cases, and WYS isn’t competent to do, well, much of anything at all). If Justi will say in a deposition or in court what her complaint does, that may be all the evidence she needs to get the case to trial.

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              #36
              The allegations of inappropriate touching of a player creates serious risk of liability for Crossfire and LWYSA but also for Justi. Per the safe sport regulations she was required to report this to law-enforcement. Why didn’t she?

              these are the safe sport requirements per US Club. USYS is the same.

              MANDATORY REPORTING PROVISIONS

              Pursuant to the SafeSport Act, all mandatory reporters are required to report suspected child abuse, including sexual abuse, within 24 hours to the local law enforcement agency or local child protective services agency that has jurisdiction to investigate reports of child abuse or to protect child abuse victims, or to the FBI. This requirement applies to, among others, all Participants as described in US Club Soccer Policy 13.01.

              Beyond the obligations described in Section 13.03(a), Adult Participants also have an affirmative duty to report suspected abuse or other misconduct to US Club Soccer, and as many be applicable, the U.S. Center for SafeSport.

              These obligations are in addition to any state or local law requirements that an individual may have in a particular jurisdiction.


              safesport requires the report to be made within 24 hours. Under Washington law the report is required to be made within 48 hours.

              https://www.dcyf.wa.gov/sites/defaul...ubs/22-163.pdf

              It does not appear such a report was made by Justi or anyone at Crossfire. The Complaint says nothing about whether Justi complied with her obligation to report the situation to law-enforcement within 24 hours. If she failed to report it, it could be a safe sport violation by Justi and that would create problems for her and her new employer PacNW. Did PacNW do their due diligence before hiring Justi? Did she tell them everything? PacNW needs to deal with this as well because their new employee may be in violation of Safesport rules. Should they remove her from coaching duties? For sure, Crossfire’s leadership is in trouble for not acting on Justi’s information.

              The state statute would require Justi to report the situation to law-enforcement if she was the supervisor of the alleged abuser. that may be a technicality she and her lawyers are relying on, but it doesn’t get her out of the safesport 24 hour reporting requirement.

              https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=26.44.030

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                #37
                Originally posted by Guest View Post
                The allegations of inappropriate touching of a player creates serious risk of liability for Crossfire and LWYSA but also for Justi. Per the safe sport regulations she was required to report this to law-enforcement. Why didn’t she?

                these are the safe sport requirements per US Club. USYS is the same.

                MANDATORY REPORTING PROVISIONS

                Pursuant to the SafeSport Act, all mandatory reporters are required to report suspected child abuse, including sexual abuse, within 24 hours to the local law enforcement agency or local child protective services agency that has jurisdiction to investigate reports of child abuse or to protect child abuse victims, or to the FBI. This requirement applies to, among others, all Participants as described in US Club Soccer Policy 13.01.

                Beyond the obligations described in Section 13.03(a), Adult Participants also have an affirmative duty to report suspected abuse or other misconduct to US Club Soccer, and as many be applicable, the U.S. Center for SafeSport.

                These obligations are in addition to any state or local law requirements that an individual may have in a particular jurisdiction.


                safesport requires the report to be made within 24 hours. Under Washington law the report is required to be made within 48 hours.

                https://www.dcyf.wa.gov/sites/defaul...ubs/22-163.pdf

                It does not appear such a report was made by Justi or anyone at Crossfire. The Complaint says nothing about whether Justi complied with her obligation to report the situation to law-enforcement within 24 hours. If she failed to report it, it could be a safe sport violation by Justi and that would create problems for her and her new employer PacNW. Did PacNW do their due diligence before hiring Justi? Did she tell them everything? PacNW needs to deal with this as well because their new employee may be in violation of Safesport rules. Should they remove her from coaching duties? For sure, Crossfire’s leadership is in trouble for not acting on Justi’s information.

                The state statute would require Justi to report the situation to law-enforcement if she was the supervisor of the alleged abuser. that may be a technicality she and her lawyers are relying on, but it doesn’t get her out of the safesport 24 hour reporting requirement.

                https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=26.44.030
                Really? This is what you are worried about? Whether the person reporting an issue checks all the boxes.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Guest View Post
                  Complaint is available here. Looking forward to all the excuses from the Bernie Bros.

                  https://www.filemail.com/d/rfgmietcyzdoegv
                  This should serve as a wake up to all youth sports. Wake the f#ck up! The frat house lifestyle you live is over. Grow up and treat coaches, parents, and other in your organization with respect. Everything you work to build can come crumbling down in an instant.

                  I feel bad for crossfire and the kids in the program. But honestly the best thing to happen here is for crossfire to burn to the ground. An example needs to be set and Bernie needs to pay the price.

                  While I didn't see these allegations first hand, you only need to spend a small time around him to see what kind of person he is.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Guest View Post
                    Complaint is available here. Looking forward to all the excuses from the Bernie Bros.

                    https://www.filemail.com/d/rfgmietcyzdoegv
                    If you haven't read the allegations against Bernie and Crossfire they are here

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Guest View Post

                      Really? This is what you are worried about? Whether the person reporting an issue checks all the boxes.
                      Yeah. Cuz if adults do their jobs kids are better protected. I’m concerned about the protection of the kids. You should be concerned about adults who get trained and certified about how to protect kids and report violations, but then don’t. From your comment, it sounds like you are good with coaches who don’t know their obligations for protecting kids even though they are “certified”.

                      the parents of the kids who were the victims of the inappropriate touching should be contacting police and prosecutors need to get involved.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Guest View Post

                        Yeah. Cuz if adults do their jobs kids are better protected. I’m concerned about the protection of the kids. You should be concerned about adults who get trained and certified about how to protect kids and report violations, but then don’t. From your comment, it sounds like you are good with coaches who don’t know their obligations for protecting kids even though they are “certified”.

                        the parents of the kids who were the victims of the inappropriate touching should be contacting police and prosecutors need to get involved.
                        Good points all the way around. The only caveat I would add is that you had better get your ducks in a row with enough evidence to go to the authorities not just mere suspicion or rumor. If the allegations are true then allow the legal process run its course but if not, reputations can have long term impacts

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                          #42
                          It is important for this information to be shared with xf sponsors like Nike to see if these entities want to continue to be involved with the Bernie/Justi fight

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Guest View Post
                            It is important for this information to be shared with xf sponsors like Nike to see if these entities want to continue to be involved with the Bernie/Justi fight
                            If your club is going to a Crossfire sponsored tournament, maybe withdraw and make other plans.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              If your club is going to a Crossfire sponsored tournament, maybe withdraw and make other plans.
                              You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Talk about town gossip metoo blm woke which hunt. Bernie is an idiot, he should be booted. The club “burning to the ground” etc….wow. I thought you hypocrites were in this for “ the hood of the children?” ****ing disgusting. Let due process take place and mind your own business. SMFH

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Guest View Post
                                The allegations of inappropriate touching of a player creates serious risk of liability for Crossfire and LWYSA but also for Justi. Per the safe sport regulations she was required to report this to law-enforcement. Why didn’t she?

                                these are the safe sport requirements per US Club. USYS is the same.

                                MANDATORY REPORTING PROVISIONS

                                Pursuant to the SafeSport Act, all mandatory reporters are required to report suspected child abuse, including sexual abuse, within 24 hours to the local law enforcement agency or local child protective services agency that has jurisdiction to investigate reports of child abuse or to protect child abuse victims, or to the FBI. This requirement applies to, among others, all Participants as described in US Club Soccer Policy 13.01.

                                Beyond the obligations described in Section 13.03(a), Adult Participants also have an affirmative duty to report suspected abuse or other misconduct to US Club Soccer, and as many be applicable, the U.S. Center for SafeSport.

                                These obligations are in addition to any state or local law requirements that an individual may have in a particular jurisdiction.


                                safesport requires the report to be made within 24 hours. Under Washington law the report is required to be made within 48 hours.

                                https://www.dcyf.wa.gov/sites/defaul...ubs/22-163.pdf

                                It does not appear such a report was made by Justi or anyone at Crossfire. The Complaint says nothing about whether Justi complied with her obligation to report the situation to law-enforcement within 24 hours. If she failed to report it, it could be a safe sport violation by Justi and that would create problems for her and her new employer PacNW. Did PacNW do their due diligence before hiring Justi? Did she tell them everything? PacNW needs to deal with this as well because their new employee may be in violation of Safesport rules. Should they remove her from coaching duties? For sure, Crossfire’s leadership is in trouble for not acting on Justi’s information.

                                The state statute would require Justi to report the situation to law-enforcement if she was the supervisor of the alleged abuser. that may be a technicality she and her lawyers are relying on, but it doesn’t get her out of the safesport 24 hour reporting requirement.

                                https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=26.44.030
                                Good try at making this Justi's fault, my god. The SafeSport Act is written broadly. Anyone who knew about this behavior, including volunteers aka parents, is considered a mandatory reporter in this situation. We don't know who reported what when, who knew what when, etc

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