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    Ron DeSantis, a Conservative?

    It seems the Republican Party's governing values have changed from what they used to be. I remember a low tax, free market, fiscally conservative group of folks who used to be in the party, but no longer seems to be the case with regards to public policy. Look at the Florida Governor.

    Ron DeSantis has done the following:

    Government control over privately run businesses (Social Media) Check
    Raising taxes on consumers (online out-of-state retail tax) Check
    Telling companies how to run their business (vaccine requirements on cruises) Check
    State government control over local municipalities decisions (mask mandate) Check
    State Government curbing Freedom of Speech and Assembly (Protest Bill) Check

    These are just a few examples.

    None of these are conservative principals or values. Why is the Governor so popular with Republicans?

    He can be very abrasive with the media, does that appeal more to Republicans than actual policy?

    Just curious what people think

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    It seems the Republican Party's governing values have changed from what they used to be. I remember a low tax, free market, fiscally conservative group of folks who used to be in the party, but no longer seems to be the case with regards to public policy. Look at the Florida Governor.

    Ron DeSantis has done the following:

    Government control over privately run businesses (Social Media) Check
    Raising taxes on consumers (online out-of-state retail tax) Check
    Telling companies how to run their business (vaccine requirements on cruises) Check
    State government control over local municipalities decisions (mask mandate) Check
    State Government curbing Freedom of Speech and Assembly (Protest Bill) Check

    These are just a few examples.

    None of these are conservative principals or values. Why is the Governor so popular with Republicans?

    He can be very abrasive with the media, does that appeal more to Republicans than actual policy?

    Just curious what people think
    You forgot:

    Called for and secured the highest ever per-pupil spending totals at $7,793 per student, an increase of more than $137 per student over the previous year.

    Secured the highest ever K-12 public school funding, with $22.5 billion in state and local funding, including $100 million for mental health initiatives.

    Increased the Voluntary Pre-Kindergarten budget for a total of more than $400 million

    Championed and secured $500 million to raise the minimum teacher salary and provide raises for veteran teachers and other instructional personnel, boosting Florida to top five in the nation for starting teacher pay.

    Maintained $10 million in funding to support teacher bonuses and professional development in computer science.

    Secured an increase of $42 million for a total of nearly $190 million in funding for the Gardiner Scholarship, clearing the scholarship waitlist.

    Elimination of Common Core from Florida’s classrooms and replaced with Florida’s B.E.S.T. Standards (Benchmarks for Excellent Student Thinking).

    Provided comprehensive distance learning resources in partnership with Florida Virtual School to ensure students continued learning while school campuses were closed and followed best practices for distance learning.

    Provided more than 32,000 laptops to 34 small and rural school districts to quickly serve Florida’s students as they transitioned to distance learning.

    Maintained Florida’s higher education system standing in national rankings: Florida was ranked by U.S. News and World Report as the top state in the nation for higher education for the third year in a row.

    invested more than $124 million for Florida’s Historically Black Colleges and Universities to advance the academics, research and education of students.

    Secured over $625 million for the protection of water resources for the second consecutive year. Totals included:

    Over $322 million for Everglades restoration
    $50 million for springs restoration
    $160 million for targeted water quality improvements
    $40 million for alternative water supply
    $25 million to combat harmful algal blooms and red tide
    Over $28 million in local water projects

    Directed the Department of Environmental Protection to purchase 20,000 acres of critical wetlands in the heart of the Everglades, protecting the lands from oil drilling.

    Announced $50 million for more than 20 statewide springs restoration projects to aid the recovery and provide additional protection for Florida’s springs.

    Championed and signed legislation known as the “Clean Waterways Act” to minimize the impact of known sources of nutrient pollution, realign the State’s resources to enhance the protection of Florida’s environment and strengthen regulatory requirements.

    Championed and signed legislation increasing fines for sanitary sewer overflows by 100 percent, and all other fines for environmental crimes by at least 50 percent, to deter bad actors and ensure environmental investments are safeguarded.

    Announced additional plans to utilize Volkswagen Settlement dollars to add electric fast-charging stations along interstates across Florida to encourage electric mobility and reduce fuel emissions. Under the leadership of Governor DeSantis, and through efforts by the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) and the Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT), the state is adding approximately 66 fast-charging stations, providing 168 fast chargers to the state’s existing publicly available inventory.

    Approved the acquisition of 15 Florida Forever parcels totaling more than 42,000 acres in conservation lands, to preserve Florida’s natural treasures and lands for future generations of Floridians.

    xpedited and helped secure the required federal permit to begin work on the Everglades Agricultural Area (EAA) Reservoir Project 6,500-acre Stormwater Treatment Area. One of the most important Everglades restoration projects in history, the Project provides ecological benefits, reduces harmful discharges to the St. Lucie and Caloosahatchee estuaries and sends more clean water south to the Everglades.

    Announced a $20 million investment into the protection and preservation of Biscayne Bay, a joint funding initiative between the State of Florida and Miami-Dade County. The state of Florida and Miami-Dade County will each invest $10 million, for a total of $20 million, for important infrastructure updates and new technology to help predict and prevent sanitary sewer overflows into the bay.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      It seems the Republican Party's governing values have changed from what they used to be. I remember a low tax, free market, fiscally conservative group of folks who used to be in the party, but no longer seems to be the case with regards to public policy. Look at the Florida Governor.

      Ron DeSantis has done the following:

      Government control over privately run businesses (Social Media) Check
      Raising taxes on consumers (online out-of-state retail tax) Check
      Telling companies how to run their business (vaccine requirements on cruises) Check
      State government control over local municipalities decisions (mask mandate) Check
      State Government curbing Freedom of Speech and Assembly (Protest Bill) Check

      These are just a few examples.

      None of these are conservative principals or values. Why is the Governor so popular with Republicans?

      He can be very abrasive with the media, does that appeal more to Republicans than actual policy?

      Just curious what people think
      ...and this:

      Announced $23 million in funding to bolster Florida’s mental health services system derived from the federal Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act to reinforce mental health support available in Florida and allow the Department of Children and Families to continue providing mental health and substance abuse treatment for Floridians in need. Of the $23 million in funding, $18 million was provided for Community Based Services by expanding the capacity of the Florida Assertive Community Teams (FACT), Community Action Teams (CAT) and the Family Intensive Treatment Teams (FIT) to serve an additional 300 adults and 375 youth with severe mental illness needing crisis intervention.

      Additionally, the Governor and First Lady announced that Florida is working with federal partners to set aside a portion of a previously announced $4.9 million federal grant to be used for peer-to-peer counseling services for Florida’s first responders through the state’s 2-1-1 support system.

      $2 million to 18 rural Florida school districts to increase students’ access to mental health and student support services and to enhance access to school and community-based providers.

      $5.2 million for counties in Northwest Florida to support continuing efforts to expand telemental health services and rebuild early education facilities following Hurricane Michael.

      Nearly $5 million to implement a Crisis Counseling Program to help Floridians respond to the behavioral health impacts of the COVID-19 public health emergency.

      Nearly $700,000 to extend Hurricane Michael crisis counseling services in Bay, Calhoun, Gulf, Holmes, Jackson and Washington counties.

      $2 million for a Preschool Development Infant and Early Childhood Mental Health Grant to provide mental health sub-grants to enhance the skills of the early childhood workforce for improved classroom environments and individualized mental health services to children.

      Launched “The Facts. Your Future.” statewide campaign which aims to provide Florida’s youth with the facts surrounding substance abuse and how it negatively impacts their lives.

      Established the H.O.P.E. Innovators initiative, a statewide community-based team tasked with developing innovative ways to connect Florida students and parents with mental health information and resources.

      Created Hope Ambassadors, a youth peer-to-peer student mentorship program that will recruit student volunteers to work with their peers and help create an environment of kindness and compassion in their schools.

      Governor DeSantis and First Lady DeSantis announced that Florida has been awarded $5 million to create a new pilot program, Support to Communities: Fostering Opioid Recovery through Workforce Development. The program and funding will be used to provide wrap-around services, including recovery and support services, career training and employment services to participants directly impacted by the opioid epidemic.


      First Lady Casey DeSantis announced that the Florida Department of Children and Families awarded a $1.2 million, three-year grant to Gadsden County for a new Criminal Justice Diversion Project.

      Made 61 judicial appointments across various courts throughout the state and expanded representation of historically underrepresented groups, including women and racial minorities, on the bench. Of the newly appointed judges, nearly 40% are female and nearly 30% are minorities.

      Championed and signed Senate Bill 1326, the Department of Children and Families Accountability Act, which reinstates a system of accountability within Florida’s child welfare system and restores the department’s role in driving performance internally, as well as among all community-based care (CBC) lead agencies and managing entity providers.

      Led the charge to initiate, and eventually sign, legislation removing the Florida Coalition Against Domestic Violence from Florida Statutes following exposure of egregious corruption and spending practices. The legislation allows the Department of Children and Families to administer all programs related to domestic violence services, restoring accountability in government for our most vulnerable residents and survivors of domestic violence.


      Announced that the Agency for Health Care Administration officially submitted its Section 804 Importation Proposal (SIP) to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services for Florida’s Canadian Prescription Drug Importation Program. This marked another milestone in Governor DeSantis’ pioneering efforts to lower the high cost of prescription drugs for Floridians.

      Recognized and participated in a virtual celebration of the 30th Anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act. Additionally, Governor DeSantis recognized July 24 as “Americans with Disabilities Act Awareness Day” with an official proclamation affirming Florida’s position as an accommodating state for more than three million individuals who live daily with some form of physical or mental disability, and our dedication to supporting individuals with unique abilities and their families as they work to achieve their dreams.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        It seems the Republican Party's governing values have changed from what they used to be. I remember a low tax, free market, fiscally conservative group of folks who used to be in the party, but no longer seems to be the case with regards to public policy. Look at the Florida Governor.

        Ron DeSantis has done the following:

        Government control over privately run businesses (Social Media) Check
        Raising taxes on consumers (online out-of-state retail tax) Check
        Telling companies how to run their business (vaccine requirements on cruises) Check
        State government control over local municipalities decisions (mask mandate) Check
        State Government curbing Freedom of Speech and Assembly (Protest Bill) Check

        These are just a few examples.

        None of these are conservative principals or values. Why is the Governor so popular with Republicans?

        He can be very abrasive with the media, does that appeal more to Republicans than actual policy?

        Just curious what people think
        Oh, and this:

        Issued Executive Order 19-31, which charts a course to make Florida number one in workforce education by 2030 by requiring an annual review of Career and Technical Education courses and the development of best practices to ensure that course offerings are aligned with market demands.

        Invested $10 million in funding to support teacher professional development in computer science and reward those teachers for earning credentials to teach high-quality computer science courses.

        Protected the will of voters by calling for and signing into law legislation to allow for the smoking of medical marijuana.

        Worked with President Trump, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Florida Legislature to develop a plan for the safe and affordable importation of prescription drugs from Canada.

        Signed into law the Patient Savings Act, which allows consumers to receive rewards for choosing low-cost, high-quality medical services.

        Directed the implementation of Shared Savings Program for the State Group Health Insurance Program, rewarding employees and their dependents enrolled in a State Group Insurance plan for selecting more affordable health services.

        Directed the Agency for Health Care Administration to expedite the health care transparency portal to make healthcare pricing available to Floridians sooner.
        Created the Opioid Task Force and secured over $120 million to fight the opioid epidemic.

        Signed legislation to repeal the state’s Certificate of Need law, encouraging competition to reduce healthcare costs and improve quality.

        Signed legislation that establishes a framework for Floridians to receive telehealth services in Florida, expanding access to healthcare through the use of innovative technologies.

        Prioritized the support of Floridians living with Alzheimer’s Disease, including directing the Department of Health to add Alzheimer’s and related dementias as a priority within the state health improvement plan.

        Announced nearly $4 million to the Melbourne Airport Authority for infrastructure improvements at the Orlando Melbourne International Airport through the Florida Job Growth Grant Fund.

        Boeing announced that it is moving its Space and Launch Headquarters from Arlington, Va. to Titusville on Florida’s Space Coast.

        Lockheed Martin Fleet Ballistic Missile Program Headquarters: Establishing this new site is one milestone in the larger move of more than 300 jobs to the Space Coast area, expanding Lockheed Martin’s already significant presence.

        One Web Satellites new production facility. The 105,500 square foot production facility, which has two production lines capable of producing two satellites a day, is helping to revitalize Florida’s Space Coast with 250 new high-tech jobs and 3,000 indirect jobs through the supply chain.

        United Airlines selected Tampa for a new aircraft maintenance facility. This Tampa project is expected to have an economic impact of more than $30 million and create 40 new high-wage jobs as Florida continues to lead in the aviation industry.

        Spirit Airlines Headquarters: Announced its intention to build a new state-of-the-art global headquarters complex in Dania Beach, creating 225 jobs for Floridians.

        CAE USA Headquarters: The new 290,000 square-foot facility will be located on Tampa International Airport property. It is expected to open in 2022.


        Directed the Florida Division of Emergency Management to expedite hurricane recovery reimbursements, of which the Division has now paid out over $1 billion since January 2019.

        $672 million for Hurricane Irma;
        $422 million for Hurricane Michael;
        More than $44 million for Hurricanes Hermine and Matthew.


        Hurricane Michael:

        Requested and received 45 days of 100 percent federal cost share for Hurricane Michael debris removal and emergency protective measures.

        Requested and received 90 percent federal cost share for Hurricane Michael.

        Secured and delivered 100 FEMA Trailers to Bay County for residents impacted by Hurricane Michael.

        Directed the Florida Housing Finance Corporation to utilize their resources to assist families affected by Hurricane Michael and they responded with $5 million in housing assistance for Northwest Florida.

        Awarded nearly $13 million through the Florida Small Business Emergency Bridge Loan for agricultural producers in counties affected by Hurricane Michael.

        Secured $380 million in grant funding from the U.S. Department of Agriculture for Florida’s timber industry following the impacts of Hurricane Michael.

        Secured $63 million in grant funding from the U.S. Department of Education to restore educational programs in counties affected by Hurricane Michael.

        Hurricane Irma:

        Activated the Rebuild Florida Business Loan Program to help small businesses recovering from Hurricane Irma.

        Opened the Small Business Emergency Bridge Loan Program for Agricultural Producers.

        Directed the Florida Division of Emergency Management to expedite reimbursements under the Citrus Block Grant Recovery Program.

        Announced Florida Housing Finance Corporation is providing $140 million for the construction of new affordable workforce housing to help address housing shortages worsened by Hurricane Irma.

        Hurricane Dorian

        Secured Major Disaster Declaration for 14 counties affected by Hurricane Dorian.

        Delivered 590,000 bottles of water to the Bahamas after Hurricane Dorian.

        Announced $8 million available through Volunteer Florida’s disaster fund long term recovery grants ($5 million for Irma and $3 million for Michael).

        Appointed Florida’s first Disaster Recovery Mental Health Coordinator within the Florida Division of Emergency Management.

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          #5
          Jesus someone should go work on his campaign. They're obviously enamored with DeSatan and are so good at copy and pasting!

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            #6
            Wow our governor is great at taking credit for spending federal money! Seriously how many of those accomplishments you listed used fed money?

            This list might make you think he’s a good governor, but you’d be wrong.

            Covid response was one of the worst in the country. And he lied about it.

            But keep watching Fox News and thinking throwing hissy fits at the media is solid governing. Let me guess Trump was the best potus ever too, right? Geez...

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Wow our governor is great at taking credit for spending federal money! Seriously how many of those accomplishments you listed used fed money?

              This list might make you think he’s a good governor, but you’d be wrong.

              Covid response was one of the worst in the country. And he lied about it.

              But keep watching Fox News and thinking throwing hissy fits at the media is solid governing. Let me guess Trump was the best potus ever too, right? Geez...
              You’re right! I really believe Gillum would have done amazing things for Florida. Especially for the crystal meth and male prostitute trade. Too bad he could stay conscious long enough to show his incredible leadership. You know you’re wrong when liberals are admitting DeSantis got it right about COVID. The only true Covid liar is Cuomo but you don’t wanna talk about that, do ya? Wanna know how well DeSantis is doing? Just take a look how many people and businesses are coming to Florida. Everyone wants to be apart of what’s going on here. Can’t say that about Cuomo and Deblasio’s NYC, can ya? How bout California, Michigan, and Wisconsin? People can’t leave there fast enough. Let me guess…your boy Biden is the best POTUS ever? Hahaha.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                You’re right! I really believe Gillum would have done amazing things for Florida. Especially for the crystal meth and male prostitute trade. Too bad he could stay conscious long enough to show his incredible leadership. You know you’re wrong when liberals are admitting DeSantis got it right about COVID. The only true Covid liar is Cuomo but you don’t wanna talk about that, do ya? Wanna know how well DeSantis is doing? Just take a look how many people and businesses are coming to Florida. Everyone wants to be apart of what’s going on here. Can’t say that about Cuomo and Deblasio’s NYC, can ya? How bout California, Michigan, and Wisconsin? People can’t leave there fast enough. Let me guess…your boy Biden is the best POTUS ever? Hahaha.
                The whataboutism is strong with this one....just because I recognize DeSantis' grift doesn't mean I'm a dem, just means i'm not a gullible moron

                Gillum at least believes in science, even if he prefers chemistry....

                You know, Florida has one of the worst responses to covid in the country; highest rates of infections and death, nursing home disaster on par with New York, but you wouldn't know that because the gov has been lying about the numbers from the start here

                But you don't care because you are part of the conservative cult of selfishness and lap up the misinformation

                Also he's just running for president and governing by campaign stop photo shoots and 24 hours sound bites Fox News is not really governing

                What until Trump gets jealous and puts DeSantis in his place, you know it's coming

                and make no doubt RD would be round 2 of the worst president this country has ever seen and the only one in modern history to actually lose jobs (Trump - 4 million jobs gone, worst unemployment since great depression, exploded the deficit, was a bitch boy to North Korea and Putin, and corrupt as hell)

                Of course we haven't had a Republican President not a disaster since Reagan, and he started to increase the deficit but at least he created jobs

                I'm not sure why anybody votes Republican these days. They have no policy and can't lead. The numbers for the last 30 years confirm this. And I'm far from a Dem, just somebody who isn't blinded by partisanship

                But when your followers are a bunch of gullible, angry white people, it's easy to stoke their passion with lies.

                Can you imagine your outrage if it wasn't Trump supporters desecrating our capital on 1/6?BLM, or Antifa, or pretty much anybody but idiotic old white people? Yeah I think we might get a commission on that, but an insurrection lead by R's, Nahhhhh.... nothing to see here....

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The whataboutism is strong with this one....just because I recognize DeSantis' grift doesn't mean I'm a dem, just means i'm not a gullible moron

                  Gillum at least believes in science, even if he prefers chemistry....

                  You know, Florida has one of the worst responses to covid in the country; highest rates of infections and death, nursing home disaster on par with New York, but you wouldn't know that because the gov has been lying about the numbers from the start here

                  But you don't care because you are part of the conservative cult of selfishness and lap up the misinformation

                  Also he's just running for president and governing by campaign stop photo shoots and 24 hours sound bites Fox News is not really governing

                  What until Trump gets jealous and puts DeSantis in his place, you know it's coming

                  and make no doubt RD would be round 2 of the worst president this country has ever seen and the only one in modern history to actually lose jobs (Trump - 4 million jobs gone, worst unemployment since great depression, exploded the deficit, was a bitch boy to North Korea and Putin, and corrupt as hell)

                  Of course we haven't had a Republican President not a disaster since Reagan, and he started to increase the deficit but at least he created jobs

                  I'm not sure why anybody votes Republican these days. They have no policy and can't lead. The numbers for the last 30 years confirm this. And I'm far from a Dem, just somebody who isn't blinded by partisanship

                  But when your followers are a bunch of gullible, angry white people, it's easy to stoke their passion with lies.

                  Can you imagine your outrage if it wasn't Trump supporters desecrating our capital on 1/6?BLM, or Antifa, or pretty much anybody but idiotic old white people? Yeah I think we might get a commission on that, but an insurrection lead by R's, Nahhhhh.... nothing to see here....

                  Wow, I hit a nerve with this snowflake. Talk about misinformation. You made a bunch of word salad without backing anything up. Seems par for the course with Dems these days. The reason why attacks on DeSantis are so common nowadays is people, including the liberal media, see his successes. They’re scared of this guy because he doesn’t fall in-line with their radical ideology. He’s being recognized in both the medical and business community for his Covid response. Can u same the same in your liberal run cities? I didn’t think so.

                  Funny how you mention lying about Covid numbers when NY had the most embarrassing, inept, and criminal response to theirs. Hell, we still don’t know how many actually died because of the typical left-wing cover-ups. But you don’t wanna talk about that.

                  Worse Covid response? According to who, you? Show us the data that backs up that misinformation. I did.

                  RD would be the worse president…name one this Biden has done? Gas prices? Inflation? Deficit? Food prices? Foreign Policy? Take your pick. We have world-wide instability and war because of this clown. Both China and Russia own Biden. Everyone knows it. They’re playing him like a fiddle. Don’t believe me, look at the Wahun lab coverup in which every liberal said was just a conspiracy theory yet Biden blocks any investigation into the worst pandemic in modern history witch killed hundreds of thousands Americans. What US President does that? What US President shuts down American pipelines while funding Russia’s? That’s all great “policy”

                  Speaking of BLM, they sure turned out to be an embarrassment. To think their leader was more concerned about real estate than black livers is simply as disgrace. Now their abolish and defund the police stunt has completely backfired, they have been exposed as nothing more than a political group in which you liberals backed. Talk about radical followers, in what nut job universe do normal people think it’s a great idea to rid our streets of police, border agents, and ICE? I know, the Democratic Party. The party of great policy like open borders, Sanctuary cities, CRT…

                  https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...rida?_amp=true

                  https://www.newsweek.com/stanford-do...-1586445?amp=1

                  “The Stanford doctor added that the Republican governor knows more about coronavirus literature than "most epidemiologists."

                  https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...es-july-1.html

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                    #10
                    The conservative snowflake got his feelings hurt. So sorry. Did I talk badly about Governor Photo Op/Hide Data?

                    Keep living in that comfy creation of yours that is the right wing bubble. Don't worry, they will tell you everything you want to hear.

                    Seriously though, how many decades has it been since our country had a Republican prez that wasn't a total disaster. Trump? Bush 43? Bush 41? All terrible. And they only have gotten worse each time. Trump caused a frickin' depression by his ineptitude with a public health crisis.

                    But I know, everything is bad because of the liberal media. All the media is against conservatives. Blah, blah, blah. Whine, whine, whine. This victimization stuff is getting old and Cons are starting to really embarrass themselves with the lack of self awareness.

                    It's the media's fault! It's the teacher's fault! It's the college's fault! It's the government's fault! It's China's fault! It's BLM's fault! It's Biden's fault! It's the Democrats fault!

                    Here's a thought. Maybe conservative policies are terrible for our country and they don't work. Or maybe R's just don't have policy anymore. Either way, they are not trying to help America right now.

                    But don't forget your "argument" keywords like "snowflake" "Liberal" "Radical Ideology" "Socialism" "open borders" "sanctuary cities", you're really good at hittin' all the big ones

                    It's too bad because you sound like you are intelligent and willing to read, but I don't think you realize how manipulated you have become. Oh and to say that China and Russia own Biden, but not Trump, that's pretty funny bro...

                    I used to play this game with family where I would research and see if I could guess the RW media they listen to by their talking points. Try not to do it anymore because of sanity, but I was good at it and it sounds like you listen to quite a bit of AM radio. Good luck with that but that stuff will rot ur brain...

                    What about, what about, what about.................ad infinitum.....yikes

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The conservative snowflake got his feelings hurt. So sorry. Did I talk badly about Governor Photo Op/Hide Data?

                      Keep living in that comfy creation of yours that is the right wing bubble. Don't worry, they will tell you everything you want to hear.

                      Seriously though, how many decades has it been since our country had a Republican prez that wasn't a total disaster. Trump? Bush 43? Bush 41? All terrible. And they only have gotten worse each time. Trump caused a frickin' depression by his ineptitude with a public health crisis.

                      But I know, everything is bad because of the liberal media. All the media is against conservatives. Blah, blah, blah. Whine, whine, whine. This victimization stuff is getting old and Cons are starting to really embarrass themselves with the lack of self awareness.

                      It's the media's fault! It's the teacher's fault! It's the college's fault! It's the government's fault! It's China's fault! It's BLM's fault! It's Biden's fault! It's the Democrats fault!

                      Here's a thought. Maybe conservative policies are terrible for our country and they don't work. Or maybe R's just don't have policy anymore. Either way, they are not trying to help America right now.

                      But don't forget your "argument" keywords like "snowflake" "Liberal" "Radical Ideology" "Socialism" "open borders" "sanctuary cities", you're really good at hittin' all the big ones

                      It's too bad because you sound like you are intelligent and willing to read, but I don't think you realize how manipulated you have become. Oh and to say that China and Russia own Biden, but not Trump, that's pretty funny bro...

                      I used to play this game with family where I would research and see if I could guess the RW media they listen to by their talking points. Try not to do it anymore because of sanity, but I was good at it and it sounds like you listen to quite a bit of AM radio. Good luck with that but that stuff will rot ur brain...

                      What about, what about, what about.................ad infinitum.....yikes
                      Holy whataboutisms! Do you even realize you’re the king of them? Despite the fact Biden is the POTUS and he’s failing miserably BTW, look at what you wanna talk about…Bush 41, Bush 43, Trump, and Trump voters. Dude you’re living in the past. Just like the liberal media, you’re lost without Trump. So what’s the next move? You go after RD. You’re libtards are so predictable. It’s obvious you don’t wanna talk your current POTUS. I wonder why? I challenged you to list all the wonderful things this “current” administration has done for the betterment of this county and how did you respond? Well let’s see. We got Trump, Bush, media, and conservative policies. One gigantic whataboutisms. Tell me something, if liberal policies are so great, how come you never talk about them? You’re truly a study is repetition and redundancy. During the Trump administration, you snowflakes never offered better alternatives, did you? Nope. It’s was just about getting Trump out of office. Now he’s gone and the world can see what a colossal disaster this administration has turned out to be. Talk about living in a bubble. How many times does liberal media have to correct all their misinformation? How many times do they have to apologize for their obvious misrepresentation of the truth. The longer Trump is out of office, the more we’re finding out how much he got right after all. But hey, we got a new POTUS now. Wanna talk about him? Didn’t think so. I’ll be eagerly awaiting your next “but what about Trump” post.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The whataboutism is strong with this one....just because I recognize DeSantis' grift doesn't mean I'm a dem, just means i'm not a gullible moron

                        Gillum at least believes in science, even if he prefers chemistry....

                        You know, Florida has one of the worst responses to covid in the country; highest rates of infections and death, nursing home disaster on par with New York, but you wouldn't know that because the gov has been lying about the numbers from the start here

                        But you don't care because you are part of the conservative cult of selfishness and lap up the misinformation

                        Also he's just running for president and governing by campaign stop photo shoots and 24 hours sound bites Fox News is not really governing

                        What until Trump gets jealous and puts DeSantis in his place, you know it's coming

                        and make no doubt RD would be round 2 of the worst president this country has ever seen and the only one in modern history to actually lose jobs (Trump - 4 million jobs gone, worst unemployment since great depression, exploded the deficit, was a bitch boy to North Korea and Putin, and corrupt as hell)

                        Of course we haven't had a Republican President not a disaster since Reagan, and he started to increase the deficit but at least he created jobs

                        I'm not sure why anybody votes Republican these days. They have no policy and can't lead. The numbers for the last 30 years confirm this. And I'm far from a Dem, just somebody who isn't blinded by partisanship

                        But when your followers are a bunch of gullible, angry white people, it's easy to stoke their passion with lies.

                        Can you imagine your outrage if it wasn't Trump supporters desecrating our capital on 1/6?BLM, or Antifa, or pretty much anybody but idiotic old white people? Yeah I think we might get a commission on that, but an insurrection lead by R's, Nahhhhh.... nothing to see here....
                        Please move to NY. Florida is so bad. Enjoy retirement in those nursing homes that managed COVID so well. you are complete tool bag clown. Stop being mad that your unemployment benefits will go back to require you to get a job. Can't believe anybody votes Democrat so the government can give you all that they think you need.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The conservative snowflake got his feelings hurt. So sorry. Did I talk badly about Governor Photo Op/Hide Data?

                          Keep living in that comfy creation of yours that is the right wing bubble. Don't worry, they will tell you everything you want to hear.

                          Seriously though, how many decades has it been since our country had a Republican prez that wasn't a total disaster. Trump? Bush 43? Bush 41? All terrible. And they only have gotten worse each time. Trump caused a frickin' depression by his ineptitude with a public health crisis.

                          But I know, everything is bad because of the liberal media. All the media is against conservatives. Blah, blah, blah. Whine, whine, whine. This victimization stuff is getting old and Cons are starting to really embarrass themselves with the lack of self awareness.

                          It's the media's fault! It's the teacher's fault! It's the college's fault! It's the government's fault! It's China's fault! It's BLM's fault! It's Biden's fault! It's the Democrats fault!

                          Here's a thought. Maybe conservative policies are terrible for our country and they don't work. Or maybe R's just don't have policy anymore. Either way, they are not trying to help America right now.

                          But don't forget your "argument" keywords like "snowflake" "Liberal" "Radical Ideology" "Socialism" "open borders" "sanctuary cities", you're really good at hittin' all the big ones

                          It's too bad because you sound like you are intelligent and willing to read, but I don't think you realize how manipulated you have become. Oh and to say that China and Russia own Biden, but not Trump, that's pretty funny bro...

                          I used to play this game with family where I would research and see if I could guess the RW media they listen to by their talking points. Try not to do it anymore because of sanity, but I was good at it and it sounds like you listen to quite a bit of AM radio. Good luck with that but that stuff will rot ur brain...

                          What about, what about, what about.................ad infinitum.....yikes
                          keyboard tough guy. my goodness would your toughness really show in the street.

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