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Do we know what league Surf is in this year? Are they going to get out of the town team league and actually play some premier soccer or are they playing in a low level again and calling their teams premier?
Look at ocean state soccer club a town team that stepped it up and is playing at a higher level that surf is in and half the cost. There are many town teams that could run in circles around some of the surf teams but yet, surf is premier. What a joke.

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do we know what league surf is in this year? Are they going to get out of the town team league and actually play some premier soccer or are they playing in a low level again and calling their teams premier?
Look at ocean state soccer club a town team that stepped it up and is playing at a higher level that surf is in and half the cost. There are many town teams that could run in circles around some of the surf teams but yet, surf is premier. What a joke.

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You guys worry about so much stupid nonsense on this page. Zero soccer IQ. Who cares where the kids play. If they are happy and their parents are happy leave them alone. If you are disgruntled find a new club or go to Mass and ride the bench

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You guys worry about so much stupid nonsense on this page. Zero soccer IQ. Who cares where the kids play. If they are happy and their parents are happy leave them alone. If you are disgruntled find a new club or go to Mass and ride the bench

Coming from someone that also has no soccer IQ. It does matter where you play and what league you play in. Most kids that play premier want to develop and move up so when RI surf plays in leagues that town teams can play in im pretty sure parents would be unhappy knowing they are wasting money and there is no development upwards. They are being sold from their coaches on dreams that will never happen. Brainwashed. If someone with a soccer IQ actually cared they would see this and move their child because in the end they are only holding their child back by staying with an organization like RI surf.

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Coming from someone that also has no soccer IQ. It does matter where you play and what league you play in. Most kids that play premier want to develop and move up so when RI surf plays in leagues that town teams can play in im pretty sure parents would be unhappy knowing they are wasting money and there is no development upwards. They are being sold from their coaches on dreams that will never happen. Brainwashed. If someone with a soccer IQ actually cared they would see this and move their child because in the end they are only holding their child back by staying with an organization like RI surf.

Nothing wrong with extra games/touches. I see RI Surf 2009 and 2010 top teams are among the top of their brackets. Must be doing something right.

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Do we know what league Surf is in this year? Are they going to get out of the town team league and actually play some premier soccer or are they playing in a low level again and calling their teams premier?
Look at ocean state soccer club a town team that stepped it up and is playing at a higher level that surf is in and half the cost. There are many town teams that could run in circles around some of the surf teams but yet, surf is premier. What a joke.

Haha didn’t NK take all Bayside and Surf “B” players for these teams. So technically they aren’t even developing their own players. But I get it why play on a B team when you can play same league at OSNK. But I doubt that the development would be comparable.

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Nothing wrong with extra games/touches. I see RI Surf 2009 and 2010 top teams are among the top of their brackets. Must be doing something right.

You obviously must be talking about boys and therefore have no business commenting on this board. I matters now how well Surf boys' teams do. Everyone here knows this board is exclusively for the parents of girls! Girls, Girls, Girls!

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RI Surf has zero development on boys or girls side. You say the Surf 09 and 10s compete at top levels or top of brackets. They look silly out there. The opposing coaches eye roll when they see the RI surf in their bracket. They know they now have to play with a team of big slow kids with 1 good player. They know this is not going to be a soccer game but kick and chase or kickball. They know the Surf girls will use Braun over brains, pushing and tripping instead of speed or technical skills. They worry about their players getting hurt going against these teams. Don’t brag that your team coach puts you all in top brackets in a tournament yet play town soccer and in weak leagues on the weekly. Parents on surf are scammed by this non development approach to training their players.

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You obviously must be talking about boys and therefore have no business commenting on this board. I matters now how well Surf boys' teams do. Everyone here knows this board is exclusively for the parents of girls! Girls, Girls, Girls!

You obviously have no clue as the 2 girls teams referenced, are both currently in 2nd place in their DPL brackets.

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You say the Surf 09 and 10s compete at top levels or top of brackets.

Never stated top level, that is ecnl and ga. Stated they are at the top of the brackets (DPL), meaning the place they are currently in for the league they play in. You're welcome for explaining that to you. The rest you post is your opinion. Seems you are in 1 of 2 categories. You are on a team that one of these RI Surf teams consistently beats, or your player didn't make the RI Surf team at tryouts or was cut. Either way, bet your players team is well below either of these 2 teams, or you're a Bayside employee. So, you just don't matter. Move along

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Never stated top level, that is ecnl and ga. Stated they are at the top of the brackets (DPL), meaning the place they are currently in for the league they play in. You're welcome for explaining that to you. The rest you post is your opinion. Seems you are in 1 of 2 categories. You are on a team that one of these RI Surf teams consistently beats, or your player didn't make the RI Surf team at tryouts or was cut. Either way, bet your players team is well below either of these 2 teams, or you're a Bayside employee. So, you just don't matter. Move along

There may be some good players in that age group but don’t they use one girl for 2010 all the way to 2008. How can she be on 3 teams? DPL is another way of saying you aren’t ENCL or GA. No way would any of them be able to compete at that level and nor can those coaches coach at that level. They are just glorified middle school soccer coaches trying to make an extra buck selling premier soccer. We need some real coaches here. Guess CT or mass will be where you have to go because RI SURF is making a bad name for all.

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All of this “Mass vs RI” and “ECNL vs the world” talk is hilarious. If you look at the current landscape of girls soccer in our area, if you are NOT willing to travel to Lancaster and play for Stars, it’s probably really not worth it. If you know the history of the ECNL and the Stars program, they will always be the top dog in our area. It was built to be that way. GA is still a strong option and NEFC and SSS have some solid teams. However, if you really do an analysis on the important age groups; 2010 to 2006 for this argument, Stars is the top dog. Also to PLAY on Stars (not just be on Stars) you need to be a top 5% player, have the means to get to Lancaster 3-4X per week and have the economic means as well. Full stop.

Next option for those parents chasing a badge (ECNL) would be Scorpions. Let’s quickly compare the in state options vs Scorpions National Teams:

2006 - CC’s Bayside team beat them twice last year. Scorps sat at home in June and the Bayside team showcased themselves at Impact Nationals.

2007 - PM’s Surf Team tied them in April with both teams missing players. Both teams added players since and seem to be similar still. The Surf Team went to DPL nationals finishing third with great exposure while the Scorps team finished mid-pack in ECNL NE conference and sat home in late June, early July.

2008 - SG’s Surf Team tied them last Spring. Teams seem very comparable. This is a case of the top 08’s being spread thin between Bayside and Surf. If they played on one team - it’s no contest (I’ll touch on that below). Again Surf went to DPL Nationals, also finishing third. Scorps were home.

2009 - CW’s team is strong at 09. They did lose to Scorps in the summer twice in close matches. The nod may go to Scorps in this one but CW is a tremendous coach and that team will fair very well if they can stay together.

2010 - LR’s Surf team was strong last year and got stronger for this season. However, RG took his whole Bayside team to Scorps. Verdicts not out on this age group yet. Nod probably goes to Scorps.

I’m not the smartest person in the world, but what I do know is you can get comparable options in state (RI) at each older age group. Each of these teams are have strong coaches.

On the teams mentioned above - the Bayside 06 team already has girls in conversations with D1 Schools. The 07 team is sophomores and won’t be able to communicate with schools until mid June, but the top girls on that team are D1 caliber.

If you’re goal is D1 powerhouse soccer school outside of our Region, you either have that or you don’t. ECNL May give you a little bit more there if you are on a top team (read stars) and that is because more of the top players gravitate to the ECNL because they have the best sales pitch right now. However, if local D1 is your desire (UCONN, BC, PC, Bryant, UNH etc) those rosters are full of girls from a collection of youth leagues. This is fact. Also D1 is not even the best option for 98% of the girls in our region. Reality check - less than 1% of your kids will play soccer for money. Instead find the college you love (regardless of D1, 2 or 3) and if they have soccer great. You can do that from any club or league as long as you have skill and a plan.

The sad reality is that D1 in most cases is really for the parents. This way they can validate all the money spent over the years chasing the ECNL dream. Ever talk to an ECNL parent? You’ll know because they lead with that. “My daughter plays ECNL” lol. Great.

Last point. Bayside and RI Surf - please heed my pleas here. You want RI to be taken seriously and compete? Put your BS aside. Have Bayside take all the boys teams in the state. They are stronger there and have a better pathway. Let RI Surf take the girls side. Again, they are stronger there and provide a better pathway today. E64 May end up being good. But looking at the early data - it’s behind DPL. Get some solid teams and get that GA pathway. Scorps won’t know what hit them.

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You obviously have no clue as the 2 girls teams referenced, are both currently in 2nd place in their DPL brackets.

Whether you realize it or not, you've proven my point. All anyone wants to talk about is the girls' side. On the boys' side, the 09s seem to be doing fairly 'meh' this season, but in the highest league available to them. The 10s appear to be dominating, and are also in the highest league available to them. The 08s, when they start play, will be in a true national-level league, the highest possible in USYS, although it remains to be seen how well they can compete once they get outside of New England.

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There may be some good players in that age group but don’t they use one girl for 2010 all the way to 2008. How can she be on 3 teams? DPL is another way of saying you aren’t ENCL or GA. No way would any of them be able to compete at that level and nor can those coaches coach at that level. They are just glorified middle school soccer coaches trying to make an extra buck selling premier soccer. We need some real coaches here. Guess CT or mass will be where you have to go because RI SURF is making a bad name for all.

Thanks PB or whomever. This is why RI will never be taken seriously. Too much venom between the clubs. The Surf hate is so obvious as is the hate back at Bayside. You two clubs keep fighting for the scraps with your “everyone sucks but me mentality” while the MA clubs take your better players.

PSA - Parents playing Scorps ECRL. Please stop with saying your kid plays ECNL. It’s really the funniest thing.

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2008 - SG’s Surf Team tied them last Spring. Teams seem very comparable. This is a case of the top 08’s being spread thin between Bayside and Surf. If they played on one team - it’s no contest (I’ll touch on that below). Again Surf went to DPL Nationals, also finishing third. Scorps were home.

Interesting that you referenced the Surf-Scorpions matchup in that tournament where the result didn't matter because the two teams were already determined to be playing again in the finals (two hours later). You can imagine how the teams were determining playing time in that game. Scorpions won 3-0 when both teams were putting their best foot forward. This was after Scorpions beat Bayside 5-0 the day prior.

I don't have the time to go through the rest of your examples for the other years but I can only assume you similarly cherry=picked results to make your point there also. Here's the link to the results for anyone interested:

https://system.gotsport.com/org_even...es?group=66642