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    Having been a parent of a (female) player whose club team went to the regional tournament of the Natl Championship series and the finals of a RI D1 state championship, the latter was BY FAR more attended, more noisy, more spirited, more intense (and like 8 or 9 of the players on the team played on decent club teams) than the youth championship series games. Most kids aren't moving on to college so the HS experience is the culminating point (maybe club or intramural at college). So I was not being "dismissive" except to note that HS coaches don't have the time and HS soccer isn't geared toward player development.

    Right - development should be training and experimenting primarily and then "testing" in competitive games - with the balance being on train than test (although sadly especially at the younger ages coaches focus more on playing and winning). Testing is about trying things, ensuring players get opportunities to play and experiment until perhaps the most important games. HS soccer is well about *winning* and *playing* -- you have 2, maybe 3 games in a 7-10 day span and every game matters. You aren't developing players (except maybe about the intellectual, mental, and leadership aspects) - you take what you are given and don't have some longer term development goal - you have a 10 week goal to be playing in the state finals. Put players in the spots that best use their existing talents and make adjustments based on the game and other factors. You can control - set plays, PK, corner/goal kicks off/def, leveraging throw-in situations, etc.

    The worst coaches think they can run it like a club team and/or think they can "whip' the team into shape with lots of running and other useless drills. Some club coaches make good HS coaches because they know the difference; some club coaches are awful HS (or their teams underperform). Some coaches wouldn't be great club coaches but they are decent HS coaches because they get the players and understand the limitations of HS soccer. Sure MA HS (from what I've seen) is better, but that's because the talent is better.

    Yes, sandbagging like some coaches do by staying in D3 or D2 until dragged up but some also hang on too long (EWG after they lost a great cohort) -- RIIL doesn't help because of course they are reactive (look at current records instead of looking at JV records, etc..) and it's RI so there is a lot of "who knows who" between the principals/AD on the committee. While *having fun* and *being competitive* are not mutually exclusive - there is a big difference between club and HS and it's important to recognize HS should be about the student-athlete experience of the team sport for the team; club frankly is about the player experience in developing individually for some larger goal.

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    Lasalle best coaching IMO.
    Lots of us don’t have Lasalle as an option and kids often want to play with the town they grow up in. Girls soccer should be held up to higher standards now a days just like womens soccer. To be dismissive about girls sports and in this case soccer is a shame. Our state is lacking in supporting girls in sports. All coaches from town, to high school, to club need to lift these players up and offer them good training and competitive environment to grow. Cross state lines into MA and you see some really good high school soccer happening. If your high school is dropping to D2 due to a coaches lack of experience or passion or competitiveness you need to take this up with your school for your daughters. This is an issue in several girls sports. A backwards mentality that girls high school sports are about having fun rather than good competition. Some of these girls hope to play in college and club isn’t always an option for families. Do better athletic directors and coaches for our daughters.

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    Lasalle best coaching IMO.

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    As you say it’s a team sport. Individual players have to step up and be leaders on the field, but how much can they really do?
    If the coach of a team chooses not to play the game competitively the leaders on the team can only do so much. The coach is to blame if a team is lacking leadership and not getting results.

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    As you say it’s a team sport. Individual players have to step up and be leaders on the field, but how much can they really do?

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    2016 was a good year for PHS. They beat Lasalle. They had great players etc. They been coming up short last few years. Sad to see them go down the drain and down to D2. Was always good competition.
    The upper level of D2 is just as good as the bottom level of D1, don't know why parents insist their kids jump ship? It's a team sport, sometimes you can't have 11 great players on the field... lead your team to victory.

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    Going out on a limb but Pilgrim HS has a great girls soccer program.

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    Of course parents are upset. At least the ones that want/expect it to be a competitive program. There are others who just want their kid to play whether they deserve it or not. At the end of the day, Nepotism is high level in Portsmouth and the AD does not care about girls sports.
    2016 was a good year for PHS. They beat Lasalle. They had great players etc. They been coming up short last few years. Sad to see them go down the drain and down to D2. Was always good competition.

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    Agree with everything… but, if PHS is dropping to D1 to hide coaching, isn’t PHS parents upset? That’s a bit embarrassing for that school with that much talent, money etc. They have good town teams and the players on those town teams many players club. They should have a coach who pushes the team to play at a high competitive level and for the love of god, not drop to D2.
    Of course parents are upset. At least the ones that want/expect it to be a competitive program. There are others who just want their kid to play whether they deserve it or not. At the end of the day, Nepotism is high level in Portsmouth and the AD does not care about girls sports.

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    Thanks LSA girl's coach's mom.. LSA has the most advantages of any school between catchment area, history, funding, ability to err..bend.. the rules, etc. The fact they have only won 1 out of the last 3 titles is telling (and losing to a 5th seed team missing its best player)..of course not as bad as Pilgrim losing. LSA should win the title every year except for a freak situation like a national caliber player opting to play for her local HS team..

    Look it's *high school soccer* -- sure you can have better coaching but it's a different "thing" than club soccer; HS soccer coaches don't have the time or ability to develop players -- the best ones take what they have and put them in the best formation to win..and use their time to do (1) dead ball / set plays, (2) defending against dead ball /set plays, and (3) PK/shoot out -- and then let the players do their thing. Kids are playing for their friends and school - it's great from that aspect but stop expecting them to play like you would at the club level. It's also (because the refs are both fewer and worse in general) a lot more chippier and thus devolves into a more physical and less "tactical" game -- hence why coaches should focus on the set play off/def and some basic understanding of the players' mental/emotional space given they are in school, etc.

    Of course, the worse coaches are either the ones who try to coach like they would a club team or have no clue in general about the mental/emotional aspect of players..
    Agree with everything… but, if PHS is dropping to D1 to hide coaching, isn’t PHS parents upset? That’s a bit embarrassing for that school with that much talent, money etc. They have good town teams and the players on those town teams many players club. They should have a coach who pushes the team to play at a high competitive level and for the love of god, not drop to D2.

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    Thanks LSA girl's coach's mom.. LSA has the most advantages of any school between catchment area, history, funding, ability to err..bend.. the rules, etc. The fact they have only won 1 out of the last 3 titles is telling (and losing to a 5th seed team missing its best player)..of course not as bad as Pilgrim losing. LSA should win the title every year except for a freak situation like a national caliber player opting to play for her local HS team..

    Look it's *high school soccer* -- sure you can have better coaching but it's a different "thing" than club soccer; HS soccer coaches don't have the time or ability to develop players -- the best ones take what they have and put them in the best formation to win..and use their time to do (1) dead ball / set plays, (2) defending against dead ball /set plays, and (3) PK/shoot out -- and then let the players do their thing. Kids are playing for their friends and school - it's great from that aspect but stop expecting them to play like you would at the club level. It's also (because the refs are both fewer and worse in general) a lot more chippier and thus devolves into a more physical and less "tactical" game -- hence why coaches should focus on the set play off/def and some basic understanding of the players' mental/emotional space given they are in school, etc.

    Of course, the worse coaches are either the ones who try to coach like they would a club team or have no clue in general about the mental/emotional aspect of players..

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    Best coach is from Lasalle girls.. Non of the other come close on either side! Most are clueless and the other just talk crap all game conning people to think they know something!

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    PHS moving to D2, poor coaching will be hidden this year

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    PYSA runs a very good program. The girls side has plenty of talent. The schools select coaches based on nepotism and the AD at the high school doesn't appear to care about the quality of coaching for all the girls sports. They ask for feedback, the parents say it needs to get better and then nothing changes. Glad my daughter is in college now. It is a sad situation.
    We have experienced the very same thing. Our player is a very good club player but we aren’t putting her on the PHS HS team unless they bring in a coach. There are some quality coaches on the girls side at PYSA who would be much better coaches. PHS has resources and talent it is a shame we have an AD that I can’t help but wonder is sexist as he for years has only focused on the quality of coaching for PHS Boys. The volleyball coaches and soccer coach of the girls has been an issue for years with many ignored complaints from parents.

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    Is this Portsmouth? There is plenty of talent coming from PYSA and the clubs these players are part of. So what is going on with the coaching?
    PYSA runs a very good program. The girls side has plenty of talent. The schools select coaches based on nepotism and the AD at the high school doesn't appear to care about the quality of coaching for all the girls sports. They ask for feedback, the parents say it needs to get better and then nothing changes. Glad my daughter is in college now. It is a sad situation.

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