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I think this is one of the points. If the coaching was that good, they'd be developing these players instead of them moving over at 15 or 16. The big EPA clubs are not doing a great job of developing these players. Cherry picking players and then still not getting great results is why I think a lot of people are down on PF, FCD, Bucks. All have significant drawing areas (as far as PA goes), all rely on kids coming into the program late. It is disingenuous to take credit for kids who spend 6-7-8 years playing elsewhere.

What is considered late? Isn't 13/14 yrs old the time most serious players move to destination clubs? If you play 3-4 yrs at a club, they contributed to development as well. That is when the game gets faster, opponents get tougher, etc. It can be easy to dominate when younger.

Where did the kids actually play to develop? Most of those kids arrived there late in the club careers (particularly the kids at Rutgers and UNC).

Some of the kids are not even playing at those schools listed. One thing to go there, another to get on the field.

Of course they did. Happens all over the country and all over the world. Players can end up being held back by staying at their current club due to a number of factors, then need to move to push on in their development. Coaching, facilities, level of competition to name but a few. Happens at the youth level and pro level. This isn't a negative, it's a positive. It's players moving on to the next level of play. Great to see a club like Penn Fusion playing a key role in moving players on to that next level!

Where did the kids actually play to develop? Most of those kids arrived there late in the club careers (particularly the kids at Rutgers and UNC).

Some of the kids are not even playing at those schools listed. One thing to go there, another to get on the field.

What is considered late? Isn't 13/14 yrs old the time most serious players move to destination clubs? If you play 3-4 yrs at a club, they contributed to development as well. That is when the game gets faster, opponents get tougher, etc. It can be easy to dominate when younger.

Where did the kids actually play to develop? Most of those kids arrived there late in the club careers (particularly the kids at Rutgers and UNC).

Some of the kids are not even playing at those schools listed. One thing to go there, another to get on the field.

I think there are injuries with some of the players. UVA had 5 PF players 2019 season and they played. Several graduated and are in NWSL.

Right, that was a few years ago. Things have changed.

Nearly every PennFusion team (before going GDA) were in the championship division of ECNL for post season play in nearly every age group. Meaning top two of division.
No Delco team in top/championship division for post play.

When in GDA, PennFusion in championship divisions for post season play; top 16 overall in the entire league.

Where did the kids actually play to develop? Most of those kids arrived there late in the club careers (particularly the kids at Rutgers and UNC).

Some of the kids are not even playing at those schools listed. One thing to go there, another to get on the field.

What are you talking about? Currently kids at UNC, UVA, Rutgers, PennState, Georgetown, Duke; not 5 yrs out. Several recently graduated playing nwsl and abroad. Not 10 yrs out.

Must be try out time, PF haters full time trolling.

Continental Delco and PF were close before PF moved over to the DA. Results between the two clubs were pretty close and competitive the last year PF were in ECNL with Continental out performing PF and FCB in a number of age groups. College placement at Delco was also very good. Delco had closed the gap, but things collapsed quickly after Delco hired the bothers from Delaware and the guy from Georgia to run the club. Those hires proved to be a massive set back, coupled with some good people leaving Delco at that time. With Westmont and Spirit relationships over, Delco doesn’t have a steady stream of players coming into the club and will never catch PF. PF is the first choice for players from both Collegeville and Downingtown. FC Bucks are only struggling because of poor management over the past five years, but with the right hires could bounce back and become the second-best option for female players in the area. FCB should be doing better on the boys side but they just have not made adjustments to have success. Right now the Union and FC Delco academies are the best options for boys with PF as a close third. PF are still doing really good things on the boys side, but it is tough when Delco boys are just a wing of the Union. PF has done a nice job of being a club for everyone, and they offer quality at every level. The gap between PF and all other clubs in EPA is a massive one.

Nearly every PennFusion team (before going GDA) were in the championship division of ECNL for post season play in nearly every age group. Meaning top two of division.
No Delco team in top/championship division for post play.

When in GDA, PennFusion in championship divisions for post season play; top 16 overall in the entire league.

Penn Fusion should be the equivalent of a Pennsylvania PDA given the local competition but they have squandered whatever advantage they once had and have fallen well off the benchmark they set 5-10 years ago.

What are you talking about? Currently kids at UNC, UVA, Rutgers, PennState, Georgetown, Duke; not 5 yrs out. Several recently graduated playing nwsl and abroad. Not 10 yrs out.

PF boys teams aren’t a close third by a mile. Much better boys programs at Ukies and PA Dominion.

Winner, winner chicken dinner!

Continental Delco and PF were close before PF moved over to the DA. Results between the two clubs were pretty close and competitive the last year PF were in ECNL with Continental out performing PF and FCB in a number of age groups. College placement at Delco was also very good. Delco had closed the gap, but things collapsed quickly after Delco hired the bothers from Delaware and the guy from Georgia to run the club. Those hires proved to be a massive set back, coupled with some good people leaving Delco at that time. With Westmont and Spirit relationships over, Delco doesn’t have a steady stream of players coming into the club and will never catch PF. PF is the first choice for players from both Collegeville and Downingtown. FC Bucks are only struggling because of poor management over the past five years, but with the right hires could bounce back and become the second-best option for female players in the area. FCB should be doing better on the boys side but they just have not made adjustments to have success. Right now the Union and FC Delco academies are the best options for boys with PF as a close third. PF are still doing really good things on the boys side, but it is tough when Delco boys are just a wing of the Union. PF has done a nice job of being a club for everyone, and they offer quality at every level. The gap between PF and all other clubs in EPA is a massive one.

PF boys teams aren’t a close third by a mile. Much better boys programs at Ukies and PA Dominion.

Penn Fusion should be the equivalent of a Pennsylvania PDA given the local competition but they have squandered whatever advantage they once had and have fallen well off the benchmark they set 5-10 years ago.

I agree with you.

Penn Fusion should be the equivalent of a Pennsylvania PDA given the local competition but they have squandered whatever advantage they once had and have fallen well off the benchmark they set 5-10 years ago.

Do you realize how many people live within an hourS ride of PDA compared to PF?

For a Philly area club to become a national powerhouse the other two need to drop ecnl and the last club standing needs to play in a central location i.e. the proving grounds or down along I95.somewhere.

Penn Fusion should be the equivalent of a Pennsylvania PDA given the local competition but they have squandered whatever advantage they once had and have fallen well off the benchmark they set 5-10 years ago.

By everyone you mean rich white kids, right? Cause they be charging $3.5k/year just to join up.

PF regularly give out scholarship money to those in need. And it's far from $3.5k 'just to join up'