Haverford Men's Soccer

The point is the limited existence of such teams is a complete non factor in college soccer. Absolutely no one should be excited their kid is on a JV team at some no name college. The schools would be better off admitting kids to the V team and carrying bigger rosters. Oh wait, that's what some of them are already doing. The JV moniker is another way to sucker in more players. 49 on overall the roster, but sure you're on JV! What a joke.

https://gannonsports.com/sports/mens-soccer/roster
https://northcentralcardinals.com/sp...-soccer/roster

Those rosters are absurd. Anyone dumb enough to agree to that scenario isn't very bright.

You're obviously not a college coach, or at least not one with any experience, unless you are being VERY specific about the name "JV soccer." They don't all publicize it, but they do it internally and do schedule games against other team's backups.

It took like two seconds of googling to find D2 or D3 schools that publicize a "reserve team" or "2nd Team" or "Developmental" team schedule last year. or this year

https://gannonsports.com/sports/mens...occer/schedule

https://northcentralcardinals.com/sp...-schedule.aspx

https://goeasterneagles.com/sports/m...r-dv-/schedule

https://asburyeagles.com/sports/mens.../schedule/2022

https://abbeyathletics.com/sports/de...al-mens-soccer

https://newberrywolves.com/sports/me.../schedule/2022

https://schreinermountaineers.com/sp...c/reserve_team

Now that I agree with. I posted the response you replied with (sorry for voice to text errors!) but yes they definitely have reserve/2ndteam/non-travel players. These are players who are freshmen or those that won't play much but are good enough to be on the team. The issue I see as a NCAA coach is that no one on the teams calls them JV as that's a high school term that delineates a separate program, separate coach, separate roster, separate everything. NCAA college soccer is ONE PROGRAM with 25-35 players. All these players train, compete and act as one team. That's college soccer and of course they all know the starters/best players and yes there are spring games and 'reserve' games to get the lesser players game time but the name JV is not relevant in any way in college soccer.

I don't know why anyone is arguing that reserve/JV/developmental teams don't exist when there are links showing that they exist, they are clearly part of the athletic program overseen by the first team coaching staffs and the players are pictured in the team photo for the (very large) varsity team. The reason that their existence is at all relevant to this thread is because the new Haverford coach apparently had to set one up at his old job at Eastern University, which might have made the job less attractive for the coach.

Why should anyone else care that they exist? They are used to increase enrollment at small schools by attracting kids with the promise of playing soccer for the school team. Nothing wrong with that as long as everyone is transparent about it. Lots of football players at top programs play four years on the scout team and never sniff the field. Having reserve team games is better than sitting on the bench or only attending practices. Problem is if a kid only goes to the school because they think they are being recruited for the varsity team.

The point is the limited existence of such teams is a complete non factor in college soccer. Absolutely no one should be excited their kid is on a JV team at some no name college. The schools would be better off admitting kids to the V team and carrying bigger rosters. Oh wait, that's what some of them are already doing. The JV moniker is another way to sucker in more players. 49 on overall the roster, but sure you're on JV! What a joke.

https://gannonsports.com/sports/mens-soccer/roster
https://northcentralcardinals.com/sp...-soccer/roster

You are obviously him or closely tied as no one has ever heard of a JV D3 soccer team. If you are him, please stop. If you are posting on his behalf, please stop. If you are a parent or player who has ever been told of a D3 JV team, please stop!! There is no such thing. There are very few D1 JV teams and they are not even labeled as such.

If it’s him. Hopefully he stops pretending to be the college advisor at Delco. All he does is post plagiarized American Football info or info relevant to D3 men. Maybe Delco can toss his salary and Zac’s and bring back CE.

I don't know why anyone is arguing that reserve/JV/developmental teams don't exist when there are links showing that they exist, they are clearly part of the athletic program overseen by the first team coaching staffs and the players are pictured in the team photo for the (very large) varsity team. The reason that their existence is at all relevant to this thread is because the new Haverford coach apparently had to set one up at his old job at Eastern University, which might have made the job less attractive for the coach.

Why should anyone else care that they exist? They are used to increase enrollment at small schools by attracting kids with the promise of playing soccer for the school team. Nothing wrong with that as long as everyone is transparent about it. Lots of football players at top programs play four years on the scout team and never sniff the field. Having reserve team games is better than sitting on the bench or only attending practices. Problem is if a kid only goes to the school because they think they are being recruited for the varsity team.

Every program D1,D2,D3, has jv teams. Top 15 are varsity, bottom 15 are jv.

Ah, no they don't. No officially or unofficially. Sure players past #22 are more practice cones, but they're all a part of the Varisty team, all practices and demands. the only difference is most of them won't play much if at all, and they definitely won't travel with the key lineup of the top 18-20 players.

Clubs teams? That's different. And more importantly separate. Teams are run by the players and a coach that isn't part of the athletic department. They get a few bucks to travel from the school but largely have to pay out of pocket through team fees. They play in "conferences" with other schools, have playoffs etc. There will be some former V players on it (got cut or didn't want to do V any longer) and lots of players who were quality youth club players before college.

^the fact that even know any of this shows you're a little too involved. Besides, literally no one cares about "JV" soccer and even less so at those schools no one has even heard of. Let us know when bigger/better schools start participating. Right now they all have club teams and they don't pretend they're anything but that

As a collegiate coach in both division, two and division three, I can tell you there’s no such thing. Tina travels, which is probably your top 23 or so and a couple kids that don’t travel, but no one in the history of college soccer has ever called in far city and junior varsity you absolutely don’t know what you’re talking about

You're obviously not a college coach, or at least not one with any experience, unless you are being VERY specific about the name "JV soccer." They don't all publicize it, but they do it internally and do schedule games against other team's backups.

It took like two seconds of googling to find D2 or D3 schools that publicize a "reserve team" or "2nd Team" or "Developmental" team schedule last year. or this year

https://gannonsports.com/sports/mens...occer/schedule

https://northcentralcardinals.com/sp...-schedule.aspx

https://goeasterneagles.com/sports/m...r-dv-/schedule

https://asburyeagles.com/sports/mens.../schedule/2022

https://abbeyathletics.com/sports/de...al-mens-soccer

https://newberrywolves.com/sports/me.../schedule/2022

https://schreinermountaineers.com/sp...c/reserve_team

Every program D1,D2,D3, has jv teams. Top 15 are varsity, bottom 15 are jv.

As a collegiate coach in both division, two and division three, I can tell you there’s no such thing. Tina travels, which is probably your top 23 or so and a couple kids that don’t travel, but no one in the history of college soccer has ever called in far city and junior varsity you absolutely don’t know what you’re talking about

Every program D1,D2,D3, has jv teams. Top 15 are varsity, bottom 15 are jv.

You are obviously him or closely tied as no one has ever heard of a JV D3 soccer team. If you are him, please stop. If you are posting on his behalf, please stop. If you are a parent or player who has ever been told of a D3 JV team, please stop!! There is no such thing. There are very few D1 JV teams and they are not even labeled as such.

Agreed the poster knows waaaaay too much about the coach. That doesn't mean it's him but more likely he's obsessing about his kid's recruiting process. His kid needs to be doing the research on what's a good academic and soccer fit, the coaching staff etc. Parents are there to advise and discuss, do practice interviews, get them to ID events and tours. They should never ever ever write emails. Coaches smell it a mile away.

And yeah, always academics first. Create a BIG list of targets then see if you can play soccer there.

what are you talking about? They might be called reserve teams, but they absolutely exist in D3. There’s a whole thread about them on the men’s soccer section of the D3boards

just looked it up and Eastern called it a developmental team

https://goeasterneagles.com/news/202...-schedule.aspx

You are obviously him or closely tied as no one has ever heard of a JV D3 soccer team. If you are him, please stop. If you are posting on his behalf, please stop. If you are a parent or player who has ever been told of a D3 JV team, please stop!! There is no such thing. There are very few D1 JV teams and they are not even labeled as such.

what are you talking about? They might be called reserve teams, but they absolutely exist in D3. There’s a whole thread about them on the men’s soccer section of the D3boards

Thanks. The move from Eastern HC (where they were ranked 17th in the nation at one point) to D1 LaSalle AC might be career advancement, although I think that Eastern was trying to convert the team into an admissions pipeline because they had him set up a JV team during his tenure and he had to increase the overall roster to 50, which is a huge burden (and can force you to mislead a lot of recruits). Plus, Covid probably led to some financial cuts. Not sure about the move from LaSalle to Haverford after one year (and one year before at Delaware), but ACs don't get paid that much and there's probably more stability at a place like Haverford.

Good advice on the general approach. That's the attractiveness of a school like Haverford that has a strong academic rep.

You are obviously him or closely tied as no one has ever heard of a JV D3 soccer team. If you are him, please stop. If you are posting on his behalf, please stop. If you are a parent or player who has ever been told of a D3 JV team, please stop!! There is no such thing. There are very few D1 JV teams and they are not even labeled as such.

Yes it should...maybe. It could be for behind the scene reasons with just bad timing. Or, he could be a jerk and gets canned everywhere he goes. It could be purely for career advancement if, as you said, he's been successful elsewhere. That Ambitious coaches are also looking out for that next rung on the coaching ladder.


Focus on academics first with a large pool of targets, then find a good soccer fit amongst those school targets. Coaches can and do leave and other things can happen like chronic injuries, no playing time, burnout. Love the school in case something happens to your sport.

Thanks. The move from Eastern HC (where they were ranked 17th in the nation at one point) to D1 LaSalle AC might be career advancement, although I think that Eastern was trying to convert the team into an admissions pipeline because they had him set up a JV team during his tenure and he had to increase the overall roster to 50, which is a huge burden (and can force you to mislead a lot of recruits). Plus, Covid probably led to some financial cuts. Not sure about the move from LaSalle to Haverford after one year (and one year before at Delaware), but ACs don't get paid that much and there's probably more stability at a place like Haverford.

Good advice on the general approach. That's the attractiveness of a school like Haverford that has a strong academic rep.