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    Interesting Observation

    It's early in the college season, but looking at local (SE PA) class of 22 commits, appears that USYS players are seeing the field while ECNL recruits are not, in those cases where one of each on a team. Just goes to show the badge, and all of the preconceived elite status, means nothing at the next level.

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    Originally posted by Guest View Post
    It's early in the college season, but looking at local (SE PA) class of 22 commits, appears that USYS players are seeing the field while ECNL recruits are not, in those cases where one of each on a team. Just goes to show the badge, and all of the preconceived elite status, means nothing at the next level.
    Please provide data and sources.

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      #3
      Anyone who thinks it matters at next level is beyond clueless. It’s a totally clean slate. Since ECNL is typically best league you’d expect those players will contribute but it’s no guarantee ever. ECNL strictly helps in that there’s better competition and should make you better, as well as better coaching (in theory not saying right or wrong). ECNL can be the best play to get ready for college and be seen, but once you step foot on campus, it means jack s***.

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        #4
        You could argue that ECNL probably places a lot of kids who really aren't even that good, but coaches get lazy with recruiting.

        When it comes to money, there isn't a lot to go around anyway so a lot of these big announcements you read about are just nothing more than an announcement. Most involve no money and no assurances of playing time.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Guest View Post
          You could argue that ECNL probably places a lot of kids who really aren't even that good, but coaches get lazy with recruiting.

          When it comes to money, there isn't a lot to go around anyway so a lot of these big announcements you read about are just nothing more than an announcement. Most involve no money and no assurances of playing time.
          Yuppers. You hit the nail on the head. Much better quality in GA and yet the ECNL koool aid drinkers keep banging on and on.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Guest View Post
            It's early in the college season, but looking at local (SE PA) class of 22 commits, appears that USYS players are seeing the field while ECNL recruits are not, in those cases where one of each on a team. Just goes to show the badge, and all of the preconceived elite status, means nothing at the next level.
            I looked up all the teams and USYS barely has anyone contributing. Almost all starters are from ECNL and GA.

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              #7
              Getting on a roster is only the beginning. Lots of players won't be on a roster by junior year. Many quit, transfers, decide to move on, persistent injuries, new coach doesn't like them. Many reach too far. Good targeting is critical for success.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                Please provide data and sources.
                He has none. Besides, many freshmen that don't see the field right away still have successful careers. Two games in?

                Also level matters. Easier to get PT on low level teams.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Guest View Post
                  It's early in the college season, but looking at local (SE PA) class of 22 commits, appears that USYS players are seeing the field while ECNL recruits are not, in those cases where one of each on a team. Just goes to show the badge, and all of the preconceived elite status, means nothing at the next level.
                  Quite possibly in college D3.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    Yuppers. You hit the nail on the head. Much better quality in GA and yet the ECNL koool aid drinkers keep banging on and on.
                    Delco Spirit Kick-off classic last weekend list of championship level winners:
                    09 PDA
                    10 Penn Fusion
                    11 PDA
                    12 Penn Fusion
                    13 PDA

                    it look like that nail had was yours

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                      #11
                      Well duh, they should be winning those age groups, those 2 clubs have the largest drawing areas. The joke will be on the parents buying into now and claiming "our team has the 7 best players in PA/NJ" when half (or more) will be gone in 3-4 years. Life comes at you fast.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Guest View Post
                        Well duh, they should be winning those age groups, those 2 clubs have the largest drawing areas. The joke will be on the parents buying into now and claiming "our team has the 7 best players in PA/NJ" when half (or more) will be gone in 3-4 years. Life comes at you fast.
                        Do you realize that 09 are u14, 3 more years before they are been pick up by colleges, the 09 and 10 are already playing 11vs11, better start boarding the train if you have someone that can make the team.
                        No one is going anywhere from these teams. They are already top talent picked up at the young age.
                        Btw. Penn Fusion drawing area is much smaller than Fc Delco, Bucks or PSC. The difference is parents are willing to drive because they know is worth the hassle.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Guest View Post
                          Do you realize that 09 are u14, 3 more years before they are been pick up by colleges, the 09 and 10 are already playing 11vs11, better start boarding the train if you have someone that can make the team.
                          No one is going anywhere from these teams. They are already top talent picked up at the young age.
                          Btw. Penn Fusion drawing area is much smaller than Fc Delco, Bucks or PSC. The difference is parents are willing to drive because they know is worth the hassle.
                          LOL, so naive. Check back in during tryouts in April. PF has kids from Chesco, Delco, Bucks, Montco, Philadelphia, Delaware, New Jersey, and Maryland. That's a big area.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            LOL, so naive. Check back in during tryouts in April. PF has kids from Chesco, Delco, Bucks, Montco, Philadelphia, Delaware, New Jersey, and Maryland. That's a big area.
                            If my kid was athletic enough to play for PF ECNL or RL, I'd driver her over an hour to training. I'd do it in a heartbeat to help her reach her goal and dreams.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              LOL, so naive. Check back in during tryouts in April. PF has kids from Chesco, Delco, Bucks, Montco, Philadelphia, Delaware, New Jersey, and Maryland. That's a big area.
                              Agree it is a big area, but PF doesn’t drag kids to West Chester, they come on it’s own.
                              Fc Delco is closer to my home than PF, PSA not that far either, Bucks, Ukies, you name it all in 45 min drive. All these teams can pick any of the PF players, if they want to leave.
                              I don’t want to sound pretentious, but that is how is now, it may change in few years who knows.

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