Rutgers Womens Soccer

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You are still continuing with personal attacks and making assumptions about my kid and her academic and sports capabilities based on my posts which make you an assh..e.
Second RU, would be a "reach school" for 99% of kids based on their soccer skills (see your comment about the PSU being a "reach school"), it is basically the same, except PSU is better option for kids from PA.
Villanova, Lehigh and Bucknell are better options because they are better schools. 99.9% of kids will not play soccer on professional level after the college graduation. Graduating with a degree from Villanova, Lehigh or Bucknell University, will open you more doors than RU degree.
The acceptance rates for these 3 schools are 25%, 46% and 34% respectively while RU is 68%. Next, kid from PA that can make a RU soccer team, will also be able to start on any of these three schools teams as a freshman and play 4 years instead a year or two at RU.
Last, my kids have been playing on an ECNL team since U13, before that on elite team since U8, at the one of the top two PA clubs. She is also being recruited by a three Ivy league schools.

PA school?

Pick Pitt also a state school.

And Pitt didn't tie UNC like the Big10 schools (Wisconsin and PS) or bunker, they beat UNC straight up at UNC, in front of a packed Dorrence field. It was great.

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PA school?

Pick Pitt also a state school.

And Pitt didn't tie UNC like the Big10 schools (Wisconsin and PS) or bunker, they beat UNC straight up at UNC, in front of a packed Dorrence field. It was great.

My comment was rather about the schools in central and eastern PA. Pitt is good 5-6 hrs. drive from Philly. It is great soccer program run by coach that knows how to do his job.

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You are showing your personal biases against RU by stating your truth that degrees by those other colleges will open more doors than RU. I guess that’s your opinion. Take note that when it comes to acceptance rates RU is a state university with a commitment to state students just like UNC, UVA and other state schools. Could care less about your situation and your assumptions about NJ students who attend a State school. Regardless, the RU program is a higher level program than your PA Colleges.

I have no biases towards RU, it is a great academic institution, I am just saying that local kids from PA that are good enough to play on RU soccer team, are also good enough to play on any of the five universities I listed for you. Now academically, RU vs Villanova, PSU or Lehigh is your kid and your call. RU may work better for kids from NJ than kids from PA.
In regard to comparing UNC and UVA to Rutgers as state schools. With all due respect to RU, the UNC and UVA are in different stratosphere, and you cannot compare RU to these two schools. Just for info the acceptance rate at UNC is 18.5% and UVA 20%.

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I have no biases towards RU, it is a great academic institution, I am just saying that local kids from PA that are good enough to play on RU soccer team, are also good enough to play on any of the five universities I listed for you. Now academically, RU vs Villanova, PSU or Lehigh is your kid and your call. RU may work better for kids from NJ than kids from PA.
In regard to comparing UNC and UVA to Rutgers as state schools. With all due respect to RU, the UNC and UVA are in different stratosphere, and you cannot compare RU to these two schools. Just for info the acceptance rate at UNC is 18.5% and UVA 20%.

The point about State schools like RU, UVA, UNC have a majority of State students that have to be accepted at those colleges. I agree both UNC & UVA campuses are in a different level than RU in New Brunswick, NJ. Hence, that is a big recruitment problem for RU. I strongly disagree with your comparisons of RU soccer vs. all your choices minus PSU & Princeton. Those other choices would be at the bottom of the Big Ten. Not even a chance.

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The point about State schools like RU, UVA, UNC have a majority of State students that have to be accepted at those colleges. I agree both UNC & UVA campuses are in a different level than RU in New Brunswick, NJ. Hence, that is a big recruitment problem for RU. I strongly disagree with your comparisons of RU soccer vs. all your choices minus PSU & Princeton. Those other choices would be at the bottom of the Big Ten. Not even a chance.

I never said that any of these schools' soccer program is in level with RU or above. My point was if you are kid from PA, good enough to be recruited to play on the RU soccer team, there are better options for you in the eastern PA, considering not just soccer program but academics, university location, campus life, etc. In addition, you will probably be starter any of these schools for four 4 years instead for one or two at RU.

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My comment was rather about the schools in central and eastern PA. Pitt is good 5-6 hrs. drive from Philly. It is great soccer program run by coach that knows how to do his job.

Other schools mentioned about 4 hrs from philly; so add another hr and you are at Pitt. If you will drive 4 hrs why not another. Options all around, including RU.

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Graduating with a degree from Villanova, Lehigh or Bucknell University, will open you more doors than RU degree.

Is that opinion or backed by actual data? I agree great private schools but you pay for "exclusivity" and no one is guaranteed success by just attending those schools or any school for that matter.

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I never said that any of these schools' soccer program is in level with RU or above. My point was if you are kid from PA, good enough to be recruited to play on the RU soccer team, there are better options for you in the eastern PA, considering not just soccer program but academics, university location, campus life, etc. In addition, you will probably be starter any of these schools for four 4 years instead for one or two at RU.

If you asked the majority of RU players who get limited playing time would they rather play for an Eastern PA college where they would be a starter or stay at RU. I would bet they would all unanimously say RU!!!!!! RU players are competitive in nature and would prefer to compete in training in a competitive environment like RU. Not even close. Being a big fish in a small pond makes parents happy not athletes.

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If you asked the majority of RU players who get limited playing time would they rather play for an Eastern PA college where they would be a starter or stay at RU. I would bet they would all unanimously say RU!!!!!! RU players are competitive in nature and would prefer to compete in training in a competitive environment like RU. Not even close. Being a big fish in a small pond makes parents happy not athletes.

Not true for every athlete. Kids want to play. Thats why the transfer portal is filled with kids many of which are already at "Big name" schools looking to tranasfer somewhere they can play

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Not true for every athlete. Kids want to play. Thats why the transfer portal is filled with kids many of which are already at "Big name" schools looking to tranasfer somewhere they can play

My kid doesn’t play for Rutgers but I will chime in from her perspective. She was always the best, or one of, on mid to poor teams. When she was being recruited she was firm: Did not want to go into a team and start right away. She wanted to be on the best team she could (yes academics location finances etc) and have to work for it.

She got her wish. Her team will make noise in the thr NCAA’s and she hasn’t played much as a first year. She’s ok with it, for now. Probably even next year but by year 3 I expect something different

Its tougher on me than on her right now.

she could be playing on crappy teams but not what she wanted

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If you asked the majority of RU players who get limited playing time would they rather play for an Eastern PA college where they would be a starter or stay at RU. I would bet they would all unanimously say RU!!!!!! RU players are competitive in nature and would prefer to compete in training in a competitive environment like RU. Not even close. Being a big fish in a small pond makes parents happy not athletes.

Is someone really competing if they don't ever play? The starters and kids who play need someone to practice against is all.

If it is because of the in-state tuition break well that does make sense.

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My kid doesn’t play for Rutgers but I will chime in from her perspective. She was always the best, or one of, on mid to poor teams. When she was being recruited she was firm: Did not want to go into a team and start right away. She wanted to be on the best team she could (yes academics location finances etc) and have to work for it.

She got her wish. Her team will make noise in the thr NCAA’s and she hasn’t played much as a first year. She’s ok with it, for now. Probably even next year but by year 3 I expect something different

Its tougher on me than on her right now.

she could be playing on crappy teams but not what she wanted

Who the hell makes it their wish not to play?

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My kid doesn’t play for Rutgers but I will chime in from her perspective. She was always the best, or one of, on mid to poor teams. When she was being recruited she was firm: Did not want to go into a team and start right away. She wanted to be on the best team she could (yes academics location finances etc) and have to work for it.

She got her wish. Her team will make noise in the thr NCAA’s and she hasn’t played much as a first year. She’s ok with it, for now. Probably even next year but by year 3 I expect something different

Its tougher on me than on her right now.

she could be playing on crappy teams but not what she wanted

The truth! The vast majority would take their chance at a college like RU where their playing time is limited than jumping into a small pond. Parents have to learn this experience is about their daughters and not them. Parents biggest mistake is not making a realistic judgement when their daughters move on to the next level. They were the top player on their club but are now just a player on the depth chart of a top program. Talent got the player on the roster but now they have to prove themselves at training in a competitive atmosphere. Top players want this level of competition while parents just want them to play.

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The truth! The vast majority would take their chance at a college like RU where their playing time is limited than jumping into a small pond. Parents have to learn this experience is about their daughters and not them. Parents biggest mistake is not making a realistic judgement when their daughters move on to the next level. They were the top player on their club but are now just a player on the depth chart of a top program. Talent got the player on the roster but now they have to prove themselves at training in a competitive atmosphere. Top players want this level of competition while parents just want them to play.

Sure, its every competitive athlete's goal to sit on the bench and watch others play

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Sure, its every competitive athlete's goal to sit on the bench and watch others play

Unless your daughter plays on a team at the top of the soccer pyramid I wouldn’t expect you to understand their mindset. You’re one of those parents who make it about themself and just want their daughter to play. These players spend more time training than playing matches in a season. They play harder in team scrimmages than most non conference games. Those scrimmages are better than those matches played in the “small pond” with players not as talented.