Needham Girls HS Hazing

Correct, but the dope that keeps posting dosen't get the difference.

Does this discussion make you uncomfortable?

Sounds about right to me.

- Another Non-Needham resident

Or it could be just from someone that HAS to proven himself right.

You could not be any more wrong in your assumption as I am not from Needham, close to Needham nor do I even know anyone from Needham and frankly I don't care who you scrutinize or cast your judgement on in this fiasco. My personal opinion on what happened is it was wrong and it never should have happened, but that is just my opinion along with many on this thread. There is nothing new being posted on this issue just the same stuff over and over from mostly the same people with different views (although most likely not from the kids who would probably love to move on from this but can't due to a bunch of anonymous parents who won't let it go). It is like a merry go round and your statements mirror the big horses arse as it goes by. Your statements make it appear that YOU might have an axe to grind with somebody involved in this and don't want to see this stop because of it, sound about right?

Sounds about right to me.

- Another Non-Needham resident

Hazing and bullying are two different things, right?

Correct, but the dope that keeps posting dosen't get the difference.

Okay. Okay. We get it. You have a highly personal interest in repeatedly trying to stop this open discussion, to do damage control, and to protect certain parties from scrutiny or judgment. I think that you are distorting and mis-characterizing the discussion.

Perhaps you are also the insider who repeatedly tried (and failed) to derail the conversation by falsely claiming that this was all the fault of some disgruntled parent or a biased news media. I'm glad that those two false claims have been effectively laid to rest.

This made national news across the Internet. The overall discussion has helped many people understand that the Needham nonsense was unacceptable. Unfortunately, some Needham parents are still falsely claiming that everything is hunky dory with the program. They are wrong. They are in la-la land and they are not being good parents. The players deserve better guidance.

Several Needham parents and kids have been quoted in the press as being quite disturbed by the actions of the team. Many people outside of Needham are also disturbed by all of this, including the bizarre court action. Don't their opinions count? Must public opinion continue to be manipulated by the lawyer/partner of the coach and a few parents who are not putting the welfare of their daughters first?

You appear to be (understandably?) nervous about this continued discussion. I suggest that you stop reading/posting to this thread if you can't tolerate open discussion.

But please stop trying to halt it or censor it.

You could not be any more wrong in your assumption as I am not from Needham, close to Needham nor do I even know anyone from Needham and frankly I don't care who you scrutinize or cast your judgement on in this fiasco. My personal opinion on what happened is it was wrong and it never should have happened, but that is just my opinion along with many on this thread. There is nothing new being posted on this issue just the same stuff over and over from mostly the same people with different views (although most likely not from the kids who would probably love to move on from this but can't due to a bunch of anonymous parents who won't let it go). It is like a merry go round and your statements mirror the big horses arse as it goes by. Your statements make it appear that YOU might have an axe to grind with somebody involved in this and don't want to see this stop because of it, sound about right?

I guess you are from Needham so I won't try explaining why it is relative. Is there something in the water there?

No, I'm not from Needham, nor do I see anything written in that powerpoint that relates to what happened on October 29th. But I'm glad you see things in such black and white. People like you have nothing to do with why this country is so screwed up right now. Eye roll.

I guess you are from Needham so I won't try explaining why it is relative. Is there something in the water there?

Hazing and bullying are two different things, right?

But this incident has nothing to do with bullying.

I guess you are from Needham so I won't try explaining why it is relative. Is there something in the water there?

One way or the other this poor horse has got to be sent to the glue factory, it can not be beat any longer. Leave it alone for god sakes, you people could argue who is right or wrong for a decade. LET THE KIDS MOVE ON.

Okay. Okay. We get it. You have a highly personal interest in repeatedly trying to stop this open discussion, to do damage control, and to protect certain parties from scrutiny or judgment. I think that you are distorting and mis-characterizing the discussion.

Perhaps you are also the insider who repeatedly tried (and failed) to derail the conversation by falsely claiming that this was all the fault of some disgruntled parent or a biased news media. I'm glad that those two false claims have been effectively laid to rest.

This made national news across the Internet. The overall discussion has helped many people understand that the Needham nonsense was unacceptable. Unfortunately, some Needham parents are still falsely claiming that everything is hunky dory with the program. They are wrong. They are in la-la land and they are not being good parents. The players deserve better guidance.

Several Needham parents and kids have been quoted in the press as being quite disturbed by the actions of the team. Many people outside of Needham are also disturbed by all of this, including the bizarre court action. Don't their opinions count? Must public opinion continue to be manipulated by the lawyer/partner of the coach and a few parents who are not putting the welfare of their daughters first?

You appear to be (understandably?) nervous about this continued discussion. I suggest that you stop reading/posting to this thread if you can't tolerate open discussion.

But please stop trying to halt it or censor it.

Did you read the article yesterday that was posted here? Did you see how the Needham parents are continuing to drive this at the School Board level?

No I didn't. do you have a link?

Check this out http://nhs.needham.k12.ma.us/athleti...20Presentation this is dated 8/30 and is presentation to all coaches at Needham on bullying. I guess he does what I do with Power Point presentations ...fall asleep!

But this incident has nothing to do with bullying.

Check this out http://nhs.needham.k12.ma.us/athleti...20Presentation this is dated 8/30 and is presentation to all coaches at Needham on bullying. I guess he does what I do with Power Point presentations ...fall asleep!

Huh??? Didn't you just do the same to keep it going? Really, it's over and done with so move on to another topic.

Did you read the article yesterday that was posted here? Did you see how the Needham parents are continuing to drive this at the School Board level? Did you see their quotes? It is not over and done with. They will not let it go and they continue to drag their daughter's through this mess.

As I said, as long as they continue to keep this alive (and keep it in the press), we will continue to talk about it.

I can only guess that you are from Needham. If you are, go talk to those parents and tell THEM to drop it.

He is a townie. He will admit to no wrongdoing but agree to take an anti hazing course and sign something that he will be a good boy from now on. Maybe a suspension for the opening game next fall to make sure he "gets it"

No doubt being a townie helped him get the job and keep it to this point. He probably cooked his goose by having his best friend go to court to overrule the principal. He has a year to year contract which makes it real easy clean for all for him to leave.

Will he be the Needham HS coach next season?

He is a townie. He will admit to no wrongdoing but agree to take an anti hazing course and sign something that he will be a good boy from now on. Maybe a suspension for the opening game next fall to make sure he "gets it"