Needham Girls HS Hazing

I am the poster to which you replied.

Actuallly, I am a flaming liberal, registered independent, who only voted for one republican in his life (Weld over that pompous Silber).

I just happen to care very deeply about the anti-hazing law.

If it happened to the Brockton football team, methinks many of these Needham parents might have a very different view of the issue.

All the efforts to sugar coat the illegal conduct are understandable, but misguided.

I would agree that you are a flaming something. As for your being a "registered" independent- no such status exists. You don't register as an independent, although you can be "unenrolled".

Let me guess. You're a born again christian and a republican. Nobody else could possibly be this vindictive and vengeful over such a minor event.

I am the poster to which you replied.

Actuallly, I am a flaming liberal, registered independent, who only voted for one republican in his life (Weld over that pompous Silber).

I just happen to care very deeply about the anti-hazing law.

If it happened to the Brockton football team, methinks many of these Needham parents might have a very different view of the issue.

All the efforts to sugar coat the illegal conduct are understandable, but misguided.

Let me guess. You're a born again christian and a republican. Nobody else could possibly be this vindictive and vengeful over such a minor event.

You are typical of the reason the thread should not close. This is not a "minor event". The hazing law was broken. The coach may have been complicit. Don't you get it?

Until you and the others involved accept responsiblity for the criminal conduct there shouold not be closure.

Please! This crap is typical of public schools that are the breeding ground of liberal thinking.

Bingo!!! Thanks for confirming. Who teaches your kid? Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh?

Moderator: PLEASE SHUT THIS DOWN---NOW!!!

awww, poor little rich kids. Maybe if we do not talk about it, it will go away. Like it never happened.

Hey, it sure sounds to me that the hazing law was broken. Why the double standard? Let the DA do his work. Empanel a grand jury.

The hazing law was passed for a very good reason. Kids died. The law should not be taken lightly.

Let me guess. You're a born again christian and a republican. Nobody else could possibly be this vindictive and vengeful over such a minor event.

Please! This crap is typical of public schools that are the breeding ground of liberal thinking.

Moderator: PLEASE SHUT THIS DOWN---NOW!!!

It will be interesting to see if there is a coaching change in Needham next year. Let's keep this thread going until then!

We should also bring this up next summer as preseason starts as a reminder that there should not be any hazing. I hope this is a good lesson for all for many years to come so we do not have similar issues in the future.

Let me guess. You're a born again christian and a republican. Nobody else could possibly be this vindictive and vengeful over such a minor event.

The real story may be that it seems the coach has skated.

He has no business being a youth coach any longer. He should be pursued for his alleged criminal acts.

Everyone should be warned about this coach.

It will be interesting to see if there is a coaching change in Needham next year. Let's keep this thread going until then!

We should also bring this up next summer as preseason starts as a reminder that there should not be any hazing. I hope this is a good lesson for all for many years to come so we do not have similar issues in the future.

Free Speech!

Just because some people want to put (keep) their heads in the sand, do not deny the rest of us our rights as citizens of this great country.

Sorry, but Needham, the coach, and the players will need to live with this stain on their reputations. It was hazing, no doubt about it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

They all did wrong. Let them suffer the consequences.

Speak for yourself. I am not from Needham, but I think most of the "rest of us" have no need to hear anything else on this topic, nor do we have any burning desire to see the kids on the team suffer any further consequences (or have jokes made at their expense). Please also spare us the 1st amendment/ flag waving crap- you sound like a real DB.

Free Speech!

Just because some people want to put (keep) their heads in the sand, do not deny the rest of us our rights as citizens of this great country.

Sorry, but Needham, the coach, and the players will need to live with this stain on their reputations. It was hazing, no doubt about it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

They all did wrong. Let them suffer the consequences.

Look, you are the only one that wants to discuss it. That's why the thread keeps going dead and the comments that are made have nothing to do with the incident, only about why someone like yourself keeps trying to revive a dead topic.

Now if the rest of us would just ignore this guy, maybe the thread would finally die once and for all. Quit feeding the troll!

Motion seconded. Beachbum please, for the love of God, shut this thread down. The axe's are down to nubs.

- Cujo

The real story may be that it seems the coach has skated.

He has no business being a youth coach any longer. He should be pursued for his alleged criminal acts.

Everyone should be warned about this coach.

Motion seconded. Beachbum please, for the love of God, shut this thread down. The axe's are down to nubs.

- Cujo

Free Speech!

Just because some people want to put (keep) their heads in the sand, do not deny the rest of us our rights as citizens of this great country.

Sorry, but Needham, the coach, and the players will need to live with this stain on their reputations. It was hazing, no doubt about it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

They all did wrong. Let them suffer the consequences.

Are you all alone in this world? Everyone of your questions have been addressed many times over and discussed from all angles. You must have no one else to talk to to try to keep this site running.

Motion seconded. Beachbum please, for the love of God, shut this thread down. The axe's are down to nubs.

- Cujo

This is still an open discussion. It is unfortunate that some people are trying to shut it down. They have their reasons. Why don't they just ignore this discussion instead of waiting around to pounce on anybody who wishes to add to the discussion?

It is curious that these censors focus on the girls and not on the coach and the school program.


There are plenty of unanswered questions and points to be made, particularly with regard to the coach and the program.


Originally it was reported that 4 seniors and 1 freshman was suspended. This changed to 10 suspended from school and 12-13 not allowed to play against Brockton.

Why did this count change?

Was one freshman involved in the hazing against other girls?

How could debasing freshmen players be considered a healthy form of team building?


The coach clearly failed the girls and the school program here.

Did he know about the planned hazing and fail to prevent it?

Did he only know about it after the hazing and decide not to report it as required?

He was suspended. When will that suspension end? Are there other actions that will be taken by the school against him? Two weeks ago, someone posted that the coach will never coach in Needham again. I am not so sure that this will happen.

What safeguards will be put into place to make certain that this nonsense will never happen again?

The business relationship between the coach and the lawyer who involved the court system still colors what is happening. I imagine that the coach could have told his business partner just to give it a rest and to accept the reasonable sanctions that were eventually upheld by the court. I don't think he did. Perhaps he hasn't learned his lesson yet.

A smart principal would take this into account when deciding on who should be coach of the program next year.

Are you all alone in this world? Everyone of your questions have been addressed many times over and discussed from all angles. You must have no one else to talk to to try to keep this site running.