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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Mine is not putting collars on anyone.
    Mine refused to be hazed. There are plenty of kids who disagree with this behavior.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Mine is not putting collars on anyone.
      Neither is mine.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        every high school team in america participates in some sort of hazing. although your sons or daughters may not run home to tell their parents about it (as freshman or seniors) it still happens. just because this time the freshman ran home to tell on the big bag seniors they get suspended? its crazy that these poor girls would undergo such consequences for something that happens on every field, at every high school. when your kids in high school they should be able to man up and handle harmless pranks. im sure these girls weren't looking to harm any of the freshman involved, only to carry on the traditions that have gone on for years and years at their school. to think that these girl's futures are put in jeopardy just because a few freshman cant take a joke is ridiculous. grow up and man up .. very annoyed by all this crap.
        You're kidding, right?

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          every high school team in america participates in some sort of hazing. although your sons or daughters may not run home to tell their parents about it (as freshman or seniors) it still happens. just because this time the freshman ran home to tell on the big bag seniors they get suspended? its crazy that these poor girls would undergo such consequences for something that happens on every field, at every high school. when your kids in high school they should be able to man up and handle harmless pranks. im sure these girls weren't looking to harm any of the freshman involved, only to carry on the traditions that have gone on for years and years at their school. to think that these girl's futures are put in jeopardy just because a few freshman cant take a joke is ridiculous. grow up and man up .. very annoyed by all this crap.
          Yeah right, and when you get caught breaking the rules you should "man up" and not go running to court.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Two of the three freshman were on varisty since the start of the season. One came up early in the season. I'm not sure why they waited until the end of the season. My guess is that it became more of a celebration of the strong season they just completed as well as a preparation for the upcoming playoffs in which they were, and I stress "were", projected to do quite well.
            There was a freshman involved that wasn't one of the freshman who was hazed. That may have been why the seniors got ratted out. They didn't apply their form of justice equally.

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              this whole thing is hilarious. did you hear what they did? they were blind folded, put on dog leashes, and got a pie in the face. did someone seriously cry to their mommy and daddy... who then went and called the school. how old are you? now because of these six year olds five girls are being suspended, could get scholarships taken away, and might be criminally charged... over a pie in the face? is that a joke? this is stupid everyone is freaking out over nothing.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                this whole thing is hilarious. did you hear what they did? they were blind folded, put on dog leashes, and got a pie in the face. did someone seriously cry to their mommy and daddy... who then went and called the school. how old are you? now because of these six year olds five girls are being suspended, could get scholarships taken away, and might be criminally charged... over a pie in the face? is that a joke? this is stupid everyone is freaking out over nothing.
                It's a crime:


                Commonwealth of Massachusetts: Anti-Hazing Law

                Chapter 269: Section 17. Hazing; organizing or participating; hazing defined
                Whoever is a principal organizer or participant in the crime of hazing, as defined herein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than three thousand dollars or by imprisonment in a house of correction for not more than one year, or both such fine and imprisonment.
                The term “hazing” as used in this section and in sections eighteen and nineteen, shall mean any conduct or method of initiation into any student organization, whether on public or private property, which willfully or recklessly endangers the physical or mental health of any student or other person. Such conduct shall include whipping, beating, branding, forced calisthenics, exposure to the weather, forced consumption of any food, liquor,
                beverage, drug or other substance, or any other brutal treatment or forced physical activity which is likely to adversely affect the physical health or safety of any such student or other person, or which subjects such student or other person to extreme mental stress, including extended deprivation of sleep or rest or extended isolation.
                Notwithstanding any other provisions of this section to the contrary, consent shall not be available as a defense to any prosecution under this action.

                Chapter 269: Section 18. Failure to report hazing

                Whoever knows that another person is the victim of hazing as defined in section seventeen and is at the scene of such crime shall, to the extent that such person can do so without danger or peril to himself or others, report such crime to an appropriate law enforcement official as soon as reasonably practicable. Whoever fails to report such
                crime shall be punished by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You know, I hate to break it to you people, but if your daughter plans to go on to play soccer in college, they arre going to experience some sort of hazing as a freshman. It is not condoned by the schools or the coach, but it does happen. I had 3 kids go to 3 different colleges (D1-D3) and they all experienced it. Nothing was done to harm them, though they did do some humiliating things - but my kids laughed about it. If the freshman does not want to participate, they are not forced to, but the ones who do are more accepted by the upper classmen. I'm not saying it's right - I'm saying it happens.
                  Not true at all schools. Freshman hazing on our kid's college team meant the freshmen had to carry the water bottles off the field and the upperclassmen got to fill their plates first at team dinner events. Not really very intimidating. Oh I forgot - freshman were also required by upperclassmen to friend them on Facebook.

                  I think you need to stop making excuses. This is why we haven't stamped this behavior out yet. Too many apologists for it.

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                    at my school a girl was late to practice so the coach made her stand in front of the whole team as they proceeded to whip fifty or so soccer balls at her. those girls should be lucky they got pies.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      It's a crime:


                      Commonwealth of Massachusetts: Anti-Hazing Law

                      Chapter 269: Section 17. Hazing; organizing or participating; hazing defined
                      Whoever is a principal organizer or participant in the crime of hazing, as defined herein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than three thousand dollars or by imprisonment in a house of correction for not more than one year, or both such fine and imprisonment.
                      The term “hazing” as used in this section and in sections eighteen and nineteen, shall mean any conduct or method of initiation into any student organization, whether on public or private property, which willfully or recklessly endangers the physical or mental health of any student or other person. Such conduct shall include whipping, beating, branding, forced calisthenics, exposure to the weather, forced consumption of any food, liquor,
                      beverage, drug or other substance, or any other brutal treatment or forced physical activity which is likely to adversely affect the physical health or safety of any such student or other person, or which subjects such student or other person to extreme mental stress, including extended deprivation of sleep or rest or extended isolation.
                      Notwithstanding any other provisions of this section to the contrary, consent shall not be available as a defense to any prosecution under this action.

                      Chapter 269: Section 18. Failure to report hazing

                      Whoever knows that another person is the victim of hazing as defined in section seventeen and is at the scene of such crime shall, to the extent that such person can do so without danger or peril to himself or others, report such crime to an appropriate law enforcement official as soon as reasonably practicable. Whoever fails to report such
                      crime shall be punished by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars.

                      It is a crime NOW....and the change in the law is a reflection on how society has changed over the last 30+ years.....not necessarily for the better.
                      I suspect that the majority of the viewers of this site might remember back when they were treated like the new kid on the team, or might even look at this with some humor.
                      We might even look at this and say that those being hazed should toughen up a bit and accept the initiation rite.
                      None of these opinions really matter since there is now a law against it and, regardless of the severity, it is against the rules that have been put forth. At the very least, the coach should know this.
                      It is also understandable why so much attention is being given toward this issue and why the many support a zero-tolerance. It only takes one severe injury or death to make everyone wonder why any form of 'bullying' is tolerated.
                      Personally, if my daughter were involved, depending on how she reacted (I believe she would find it to be amusing) I would be OK with it. However, I would change my mind pretty darn quick if she were injured......which is why zero-tolerance is the modus operandi.

                      The kids should be made to do community service.
                      The coach should be suspended if he knew anything about it prior to its happening

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                        You parents who think this is a non-event and funny, youthful play, and/or in the normal course of growing up, and who are condemning our "wimpified" society, are a disgrace. You would laugh and high five your daughter's participation in an activity clearly designed to humiliate younger students (sorry, but carrying the ball bag isn't even close). With the attitude you have, it's no wonder your kids think this kind of thing is a-ok; I'd be absolutely furious if my daughter even thought about something like this as a team leader. And I'd take the blame for raising a kid who thought it was okay too.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          this whole thing is hilarious. did you hear what they did? they were blind folded, put on dog leashes, and got a pie in the face. did someone seriously cry to their mommy and daddy... who then went and called the school. how old are you? now because of these six year olds five girls are being suspended, could get scholarships taken away, and might be criminally charged... over a pie in the face? is that a joke? this is stupid everyone is freaking out over nothing.
                          Needham student perhaps, one of the soccer girls?

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            "Well-documentated"?

                            Where's the data you mention?

                            a 2 second google search on this issue will generate approximately 8.9M hits for your data, Mom. Please review

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                            by Randall S. Hansen, Ph.D.

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                            From CBS News: The "Millennials" Are Coming
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                            From Time: What Gen Y Really Wants

                            From USAToday: Generation Y: They've Arrived at Work with a New Attitude




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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              It's a crime:


                              Commonwealth of Massachusetts: Anti-Hazing Law

                              Chapter 269: Section 17. Hazing; organizing or participating; hazing defined
                              Whoever is a principal organizer or participant in the crime of hazing, as defined herein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than three thousand dollars or by imprisonment in a house of correction for not more than one year, or both such fine and imprisonment.
                              The term “hazing” as used in this section and in sections eighteen and nineteen, shall mean any conduct or method of initiation into any student organization, whether on public or private property, which willfully or recklessly endangers the physical or mental health of any student or other person. Such conduct shall include whipping, beating, branding, forced calisthenics, exposure to the weather, forced consumption of any food, liquor,
                              beverage, drug or other substance, or any other brutal treatment or forced physical activity which is likely to adversely affect the physical health or safety of any such student or other person, or which subjects such student or other person to extreme mental stress, including extended deprivation of sleep or rest or extended isolation.
                              Notwithstanding any other provisions of this section to the contrary, consent shall not be available as a defense to any prosecution under this action.
                              Dude, did you read what you posted? It says it's only "hazing" if it "endangers the physical or mental health" of the student. I don't think its very likely that putting on a dog collar and getting a pie in the face does either. Verdict: NOT A CRIME.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                at my school a girl was late to practice so the coach made her stand in front of the whole team as they proceeded to whip fifty or so soccer balls at her. those girls should be lucky they got pies.
                                That's another thing that should be abolished!

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